uk 5 new pence

[ray]

hi, i have in my posesion a a 1970 5 new pence, Iv`e done a bit of research on it, looks like what they call a trial strike.

Struck in 1970 (remember we did not go decimal untill 1971)

There is a very faint image of Queen Elizibeth 11 and the date

On one side. On the other side is clear image of the 5 new pence

And thistle with crown aloft.

Another interesting feature is that the blank may have been too thin, this has caused the outer beaded ring to be pushed inwards. Can anyone tell me about it.

[Debbie]

I think you would need to post up photos for members to comment on this properly. Although we didn't go decimal until 1971 I think that there were lots of proof coins struck with the 1970 date.

[Rob]

hi, i have in my posesion a a 1970 5 new pence, Iv`e done a bit of research on it, looks like what they call a trial strike.

Struck in 1970 (remember we did not go decimal untill 1971)

There is a very faint image of Queen Elizibeth 11 and the date

On one side. On the other side is clear image of the 5 new pence

And thistle with crown aloft.

Another interesting feature is that the blank may have been too thin, this has caused the outer beaded ring to be pushed inwards. Can anyone tell me about it.

Although we didn't go decimal until 1971, the new coins were produced from 1968 onwards. It is unlikely there is anything special about the coin.

[Gary D]

hi, i have in my posesion a a 1970 5 new pence, Iv`e done a bit of research on it, looks like what they call a trial strike.

Struck in 1970 (remember we did not go decimal untill 1971)

There is a very faint image of Queen Elizibeth 11 and the date

On one side. On the other side is clear image of the 5 new pence

And thistle with crown aloft.

Another interesting feature is that the blank may have been too thin, this has caused the outer beaded ring to be pushed inwards. Can anyone tell me about it.

Although we didn't go decimal until 1971, the new coins were produced from 1968 onwards. It is unlikely there is anything special about the coin.

Sound like its had an acid dip.

[Peckris]

The decimal 5p and 10p came out in 1968 1969 and 1970, before D-Day. The 50p arrived in 1969 and 1970. The bronzes were available from 1968 in sets, but none dated earlier than 1971. The 1970 5p is a common coin, yours may be very worn, or could be mis-struck, in which case please post pictures.

[ray]

The decimal 5p and 10p came out in 1968 1969 and 1970, before D-Day. The 50p arrived in 1969 and 1970. The bronzes were available from 1968 in sets, but none dated earlier than 1971. The 1970 5p is a common coin, yours may be very worn, or could be mis-struck, in which case please post pictures.

[ray]

The decimal 5p and 10p came out in 1968 1969 and 1970, before D-Day. The 50p arrived in 1969 and 1970. The bronzes were available from 1968 in sets, but none dated earlier than 1971. The 1970 5p is a common coin, yours may be very worn, or could be mis-struck, in which case please post pictures.

[ray]

The decimal 5p and 10p came out in 1968 1969 and 1970, before D-Day. The 50p arrived in 1969 and 1970. The bronzes were available from 1968 in sets, but none dated earlier than 1971. The 1970 5p is a common coin, yours may be very worn, or could be mis-struck, in which case please post pictures.

Hi, thanx all for your info, iv`e tried upload photo. don`t know if it worked

[TomGoodheart]

It looks like it's been squashed. What diameter is it please Ray?

[Peckris]

It looks like it's been squashed. What diameter is it please Ray?

Or, it could be a serious misstrike. Yes, the diameter is crucial, as the design looks as though it's been struck on a larger flan, but this would only be clear once we knew how it compares to a kosher 5p of the day. The overall appearance is of a coin that's been machined in some way. It does look weird.

[ray]

It looks like it's been squashed. What diameter is it please Ray?

Hi, the diameter is 25mm, i just got hold of a 1970 5 new pence to compare it. It is only 22mm diameter.

The idea that it has bean crushed is looking likely.

I`le try to upload image. Thank you for your input.

[ray]

It looks like it's been squashed. What diameter is it please Ray?

Or, it could be a serious misstrike. Yes, the diameter is crucial, as the design looks as though it's been struck on a larger flan, but this would only be clear once we knew how it compares to a kosher 5p of the day. The overall appearance is of a coin that's been machined in some way. It does look weird.

Hi, it is 25mm in diameter, just got hold of 1970 5 new pence to compare it. it is only 22mm in diameter so it could be the crushed idea. Thank you for your input. Ray.

[Peckris]

It looks like it's been squashed. What diameter is it please Ray?

Or, it could be a serious misstrike. Yes, the diameter is crucial, as the design looks as though it's been struck on a larger flan, but this would only be clear once we knew how it compares to a kosher 5p of the day. The overall appearance is of a coin that's been machined in some way. It does look weird.

Hi, it is 25mm in diameter, just got hold of 1970 5 new pence to compare it. it is only 22mm in diameter so it could be the crushed idea. Thank you for your input. Ray.

Not a straightforward thing at all. The obverse looks exactly as if the entire coin was crushed, e.g. by a steamhammer or something. However, when you look at the reverse, it's totally different. The design is preserved as it was, and only the part outside of the beaded circle has been extended. That's not to rule out extreme pressure, but something has protected the reverse design.

[Guest Ryan]

Now this is a much better condition new 5 pence i have a huge array of good condition old coins from 1 shilling, 2 shilling, half pennys, three pence, six pence 

[Guest Rcc]

What would the value be US currency any idea? 

[Nick]

In perfect condition, worth about 50 pence.

[Guest Neicey]

On 28/09/2012 at 8:10 AM, ray said:

hi, i have in my posesion a a 1970 5 new pence, Iv`e done a bit of research on it, looks like what they call a trial strike.

Struck in 1970 (remember we did not go decimal untill 1971)

There is a very faint image of Queen Elizibeth 11 and the date

On one side. On the other side is clear image of the 5 new pence

And thistle with crown aloft.

Can anyone give me some information please 

 

[Rob]

It's normal. 5 pences were struck from 1968 onwards in preparation for decimalisation and stockpiled. If the detail is not clear, it will be worn and of no value over scrap

[Peckris]

On 23 July 2017 at 11:54 AM, Rob said:

It's normal. 5 pences were struck from 1968 onwards in preparation for decimalisation and stockpiled. If the detail is not clear, it will be worn and of no value over scrap

Not quite - they (and 10p's) were indeed struck from 1968 - 1971, but they weren't stockpiled. They entered circulation each year to run alongside shillings and florins, which were no longer struck after 1966 and 1967.

Also in 1968, they introduced the blue plastic wallet sets of each decimal denomination from 10p down to 1/2p. However, the three bronze coins were dated 1971 and weren't legal tender until then.

[Guest drew14]

I have just come across a 1968 and a 170 five new pence the 1968 has been defaced with a hole drilled above the queens head for a chain or link to go through or it would have been in mint condition as the 1970 is can any one explain these coins as they are not supposed to exist

[Peckris]

3 minutes ago, Guest drew14 said:

I have just come across a 1968 and a 170 five new pence the 1968 has been defaced with a hole drilled above the queens head for a chain or link to go through or it would have been in mint condition as the 1970 is can any one explain these coins as they are not supposed to exist

Maybe not, but defaced coins DO exist, and I've never heard of a prosecution in modern times for doing so. Those are very common coins by the way, so no real damage done from our point of view.