Official Predecimal Unc Coin Sets?

[Mongo]

I have been looking around Google, but I can not find any info on predecimal UNC coin sets, other than the 1953 plastic set.

Were there any other official UNC sets produced? I am not interested in the proof sets, but I thought UNC sets would be a better way to add coins that I like to my collection, rather than buying a Shilling here, a Penny there etc. from the same year.

Thanking you kindly!

[ski]

i think the '53 set was a first for the mint.....

the 1970 blue wallet set was in my opinion the grandfather of what is now a well established line of tat produced by the RM.

picking up the odd unc piece here and there allows you to choose your additions better than a set with some compromises may.

ski

Edited August 9, 2012 by ski

[Mongo]

Thanks ski

I agree that picking single coins for my collection is the way to go, but when it comes to the 1953 coins for example, it makes more sense for me to just get a plastic set in superb condition and break it up to display with my other coins, rather than paying a couple of quid for each coin in UNC.

I have seen lots of UNC 1970 sets, I should of remembered that one! Are there any others you are aware of?

Actually, I think it was the 1971 decimal set I have seen loads of, did not know there was a 1970 UNC

Edited August 9, 2012 by Mongo

[ski]

there are plenty of '53 sets around either in mint plastic envelopes or hard cases.....ive seen plenty of 1966/67/decimal sets in hard cases.........im not sure of their origin though, maybe royal mint, maybe not.

peters coins has some http://home2.btconnect.com/petercoins.com0/ click on unc sets

ski

[ski]

this was the unc set i was thinking of......sorry i got the date wrong, didnt wish to mislead

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GREAT-BRITAIN-FIRST-DECIMAL-COIN-SET-UNC-IN-FOLDER-1-/221086908584?pt=UK_Coins_BritishDecimal_RL&hash=item3379ce80a8

ski

[SEnumis]

The official annual Royal Mint UNC sets began in the 80s although there was on in 1953 (and I think 1965). Other than that UNC sets are a decimal phenomenon. Still decimal coins have now been around longer than some people have been alive so I don't rule them out myself. And where else but the blue plastic wallet will I get an UNC 1968 10p and 5p now they cannot be potentially picked up every day in change?

[Peckris]

i think the '53 set was a first for the mint.....

the 1970 blue wallet set was in my opinion the grandfather of what is now a well established line of tat produced by the RM.

picking up the odd unc piece here and there allows you to choose your additions better than a set with some compromises may.

ski

It was actually a 1968 set - it contained the 1968 10p and 5p, and the three 1971 bronze coins 3 years before they became legal tender. It was having examples of the bronze that made having that set attractive to me as a schoolboy. But yes, there were a lot of them! Variety collectors might want to track down the two or three different 10p types in those sets.

Thanks ski

I agree that picking single coins for my collection is the way to go, but when it comes to the 1953 coins for example, it makes more sense for me to just get a plastic set in superb condition and break it up to display with my other coins, rather than paying a couple of quid for each coin in UNC.

I have seen lots of UNC 1970 sets, I should of remembered that one! Are there any others you are aware of?

Actually, I think it was the 1971 decimal set I have seen loads of, did not know there was a 1970 UNC

No, the 1970 is a proof set, there was no UNC set and it wasn't produced until after decimalisation. It was the only proof set of the second Gillick obverse type. And there's been a proof decimal set for every year since 1971. There's also been an UNC set every year since 1982 (produced to such a great finish that it makes the desirability of the proof sets less, somewhat, at least to me).

there are plenty of '53 sets around either in mint plastic envelopes or hard cases.....ive seen plenty of 1966/67/decimal sets in hard cases.........im not sure of their origin though, maybe royal mint, maybe not.

peters coins has some http://home2.btconnect.com/petercoins.com0/ click on unc sets

ski

There were absolutely loads of year sets produced for dealers on sale in the late 60s. These went back to 1960 or 1961 usually, before which it was harder to pick up UNC coins. Having said that, quite often the early 60s sets weren't strictly UNC. They were sold in custom made Sandhill cases, and look quite similar to the earlier decimal proof sets but without the Royal Mint badge. They weren't official. There was also an unofficial special 'First and Last' set which included 1967 coins, 1966 shillings, and the first decimals, taken from the blue wallets (I can't remember if the 1965 crown or 1969 50p were included).

The official annual Royal Mint UNC sets began in the 80s although there was on in 1953 (and I think 1965). Other than that UNC sets are a decimal phenomenon. Still decimal coins have now been around longer than some people have been alive so I don't rule them out myself. And where else but the blue plastic wallet will I get an UNC 1968 10p and 5p now they cannot be potentially picked up every day in change?

No, the 1965 set was simply a Sandhill year set produced for dealers. It was unofficial.

Edited August 10, 2012 by Peckris

[Mongo]

Thanks for clearing that up for me Peck

Also... could you tell me where the BOLD button is please?

[ski]

this was the unc set i was thinking of......sorry i got the date wrong, didnt wish to mislead

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3379ce80a8

ski, on 09 August 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

i think the '53 set was a first for the mint.....

the 1970 blue wallet set was in my opinion the grandfather of what is now a well established line of tat produced by the RM.

picking up the odd unc piece here and there allows you to choose your additions better than a set with some compromises may.

ski

It was actually a 1968 set - it contained the 1968 10p and 5p, and the three 1971 bronze coins 3 years before they became legal tender. It was having examples of the bronze that made having that set attractive to me as a schoolboy. But yes, there were a lot of them! Variety collectors might want to track down the two or three different 10p types in those sets.

have to confess i bought 2 sets on the bay a couple of years ago......my records show i paid 75p for the 2.....i suspect i may have paid more in postage

[Peckris]

Thanks for clearing that up for me Peck

Also... could you tell me where the BOLD button is please?

NO

[scottishmoney]

Much like the 1965 Churchill Crowns, the 1970 sets will curse us for many years before they ever appreciate. I have acquisitioned several of them, not all willingly. Some of the bronze coins have toned and not attractively either.

[Peckris]

Much like the 1965 Churchill Crowns, the 1970 sets will curse us for many years before they ever appreciate. I have acquisitioned several of them, not all willingly. Some of the bronze coins have toned and not attractively either.

Except there's a big difference between 19 million and 750,000! I believe that the 1970 set will always be popular as the only proof set that marks the predecimal years of the Queen's reign after 1953. It's just a pity they didn't include a farthing. I agree about the toning problems, but that's a common thing with all those early proof sets especially 1973.

I guess they will never be worth a huge amount, but there was a big demand for them at the time. I'm keeping my 1970-1973 sets despite the large numbers produced. I just wish they had stopped there, with single denomination proofs in all metals + piedforts for the first years of e.g. £2, £1, 20p, small 5p and 10p and 50p, plus a full proof set for each new portrait (1985 and 1998). For yearly sets, the BU specimens are more than enough.

[SEnumis]

i think the '53 set was a first for the mint.....

the 1970 blue wallet set was in my opinion the grandfather of what is now a well established line of tat produced by the RM.

picking up the odd unc piece here and there allows you to choose your additions better than a set with some compromises may.

ski

It was actually a 1968 set - it contained the 1968 10p and 5p, and the three 1971 bronze coins 3 years before they became legal tender. It was having examples of the bronze that made having that set attractive to me as a schoolboy. But yes, there were a lot of them! Variety collectors might want to track down the two or three different 10p types in those sets.

Thanks ski

I agree that picking single coins for my collection is the way to go, but when it comes to the 1953 coins for example, it makes more sense for me to just get a plastic set in superb condition and break it up to display with my other coins, rather than paying a couple of quid for each coin in UNC.

I have seen lots of UNC 1970 sets, I should of remembered that one! Are there any others you are aware of?

Actually, I think it was the 1971 decimal set I have seen loads of, did not know there was a 1970 UNC

No, the 1970 is a proof set, there was no UNC set and it wasn't produced until after decimalisation. It was the only proof set of the second Gillick obverse type. And there's been a proof decimal set for every year since 1971. There's also been an UNC set every year since 1982 (produced to such a great finish that it makes the desirability of the proof sets less, somewhat, at least to me).

there are plenty of '53 sets around either in mint plastic envelopes or hard cases.....ive seen plenty of 1966/67/decimal sets in hard cases.........im not sure of their origin though, maybe royal mint, maybe not.

peters coins has some http://home2.btconnect.com/petercoins.com0/ click on unc sets

ski

There were absolutely loads of year sets produced for dealers on sale in the late 60s. These went back to 1960 or 1961 usually, before which it was harder to pick up UNC coins. Having said that, quite often the early 60s sets weren't strictly UNC. They were sold in custom made Sandhill cases, and look quite similar to the earlier decimal proof sets but without the Royal Mint badge. They weren't official. There was also an unofficial special 'First and Last' set which included 1967 coins, 1966 shillings, and the first decimals, taken from the blue wallets (I can't remember if the 1965 crown or 1969 50p were included).

The official annual Royal Mint UNC sets began in the 80s although there was on in 1953 (and I think 1965). Other than that UNC sets are a decimal phenomenon. Still decimal coins have now been around longer than some people have been alive so I don't rule them out myself. And where else but the blue plastic wallet will I get an UNC 1968 10p and 5p now they cannot be potentially picked up every day in change?

No, the 1965 set was simply a Sandhill year set produced for dealers. It was unofficial.

Ah thanks for this. I wasn't sure if it was official or not