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[anfieldmods]

Hello all ive just started metal detecting in my local area and have found some standard old coins ie penny,halfpenny but i came across this yesterday and im completely stumped.I can work out the words stone but i think theres some more before it also theres a wreath going around it there was also a date but not in the normal place it was 1881 but there was a 28th before it it read 8th1881 it looked like a 2 before the 8 but its now fell off as the coins condition is very poor.Im not after a valuation just what it may be.It is 30mm across thanx in advance.

[Red Riley]

Could be very difficult to identify but it may help to say where you found it, as it may have local rather than national significance.

[anfieldmods]

sorry its knottingley west yorkshire.After some trawling the net for 1881 i come up with william gladstone so maybe a commemorative coin/medal which would explain the stone on the item.

[davidrj]

Hello all ive just started metal detecting in my local area and have found some standard old coins ie penny,halfpenny but i came across this yesterday and im completely stumped.I can work out the words stone but i think theres some more before it also theres a wreath going around it there was also a date but not in the normal place it was 1881 but there was a 28th before it it read 8th1881 it looked like a 2 before the 8 but its now fell off as the coins condition is very poor.Im not after a valuation just what it may be.It is 30mm across thanx in advance.

Looks a bit like Wellington to me - similar portrait here wellington token

[anfieldmods]

dunno really it definately has the words stone clearly visable and the wreath is visable but its only a part way round wreath cheers anyway

[Leviathan]

I was going to say, on my quick glance, that it looked like an Irish penny or half penny.

[Leviathan]

Grr... no edit.. I think it is a military medal of some sort..

The 8th Regiment of Foot became the King's (Liverpool) Regiment in 1881... and they certainly served in Afghanistan.

[Leviathan]

Also, a Lt Hill of the Northamptonshire Regiment won a VC (as 58th Regiment) in the Boer War.. for action on Jan 28th 1881..

[anfieldmods]

still interesting what ever it may be ive got a magnifying glass coming today so may make more out of it ill keep you posted cheers all

[Red Riley]

still interesting what ever it may be ive got a magnifying glass coming today so may make more out of it ill keep you posted cheers all

Although it's worth zip, still fascinating to try and figure out what it is. Won't be Duke of Wellington - too late for that. My guess is some kind of cheap medal to commemorate something Gladstone did early in his second(?) term. Irish land reform fits the bill, but maybe not in Yorkshire...

[anfieldmods]

valuations dont bother me its the finding out what it is. its actually my 17yr old whos taken up detecting so im left to trace everything he comes home with.Ive scoured the net and found nothing with the markings frustrating indeed

[azda]

valuations dont bother me its the finding out what it is. its actually my 17yr old whos taken up detecting so im left to trace everything he comes home with.Ive scoured the net and found nothing with the markings frustrating indeed

Well i bet you are a happy father that your 17 year old has taken up a hobby like this other than some other activities that a lot of 17 year olds get up to these days. I'd be happy to try and reference anything he'd bring home.

[anfieldmods]

yep his other pastime is hibernating in his room on pc/ps3 so its good to get him out lol plus it is interesting too.

[1949threepence]

still interesting what ever it may be ive got a magnifying glass coming today so may make more out of it ill keep you posted cheers all

Although it's worth zip, still fascinating to try and figure out what it is. Won't be Duke of Wellington - too late for that. My guess is some kind of cheap medal to commemorate something Gladstone did early in his second(?) term. Irish land reform fits the bill, but maybe not in Yorkshire...

Well the item is dated 1881, a year which co-incided with one of Gladstone's terms as both PM and Chancellor. So the "stone" that anfieldmods can make out, might be the end of the name "Gladstone". I was sort of thinking along the same lines as Leviathan, in that it might be some sort of military medal. Maybe related to the first Boer war, as he indicates ?

[Colin G.]

On a separate issue, there is a really good detecting forum, which is detectorist.co.uk, they make everyone welcome, and being a member I can recommend it. It is a fantastic hobby, I only wish one of my two were in the slightest bit interested in detecting....but hey ho thats the way it goes!!

[1949threepence]

On a separate issue, there is a really good detecting forum, which is detectorist.co.uk, they make everyone welcome, and being a member I can recommend it. It is a fantastic hobby, I only wish one of my two were in the slightest bit interested in detecting....but hey ho thats the way it goes!!

Thanks for the heads up, Colin. Tell you what, if I had time, I'd definitely take up metal detecting. Not that most detectors will ever find anything like what that guy in (was it Staffordshire ?) found last year.

That said, I can't help feeling a little sorry for the people who post those green corroded efforts on e bay, hoping to make a few quid.......some of them even say "dug up" lol

[Colin G.]

Yes there are very few people who ever end up making money out of it. I have found a few bits over the past few years, and managed my first Roman denarius (Emperor Trajan)recently, but it had a nice chunk missing

[Colin G.]

The Obverse

[Peckris]

Yes there are very few people who ever end up making money out of it. I have found a few bits over the past few years, and managed my first Roman denarius (Emperor Trajan)recently, but it had a nice chunk missing

Looks like someone had it for denarius ... not to mention lunchius and breakfastius too.