1934 Crown

[Chris Perkins]

That's very good of you Peter.

I was actually thinking of leasing coins to customers on a life time lease, being a young sort of chap myself! I hope you last a long time. Spending your gold on anything loose is a good idea.

[Cammop]

Turns out I don't have the scales I thought I did.

Is there any other way of making sure it is authentic?

And Chris, when you send coins internationally, do you send them as an envelope or parcel?

And do you acknowledge that they are valuable?

[Colin G.]

Turns out I don't have the scales I thought I did.

Is there any other way of making sure it is authentic?

And Chris, when you send coins internationally, do you send them as an envelope or parcel?

And do you acknowledge that they are valuable?

I would also be only too happy to vouch for Chris.

And Peter there goes my chances of getting your farthings down the pan!!

[Gary D]

Turns out I don't have the scales I thought I did.

Is there any other way of making sure it is authentic?

And Chris, when you send coins internationally, do you send them as an envelope or parcel?

And do you acknowledge that they are valuable?

You could always take the coin to a local jewelers and ask them to weigh it for you. The chances are though that unless it's made of aluminuim the weight is going to be within limits. As to posting, a padded bag should be all's that is needed, but not loose inside. I personally would insure it for its approximate value, I don't know how this will effect Chriss or whoever with import duties butthat is their problem not for you to take any risks. Your local post office should be able to advice.

Gary

[Chris Perkins]

And Chris, when you send coins internationally, do you send them as an envelope or parcel?

And do you acknowledge that they are valuable?

Tough one that, because you'll want to acknowledge some value as you'll want the coin to be insured to some minimal degree. If you acknowledge a very high value I'll probably have to pay very high taxes when it arrives, which is not much fun and we don't actually know the value until I value it and make you an offer.

I imagine that as a padded letter is easiest, but if parcels leaving Australia have some kind of automatic insurance then you could use that method and weight it out with rocks or whatever.

I have had some people simply send me things as a normal airmail envelope, without even telling me! I don't recommend that, even though things are usually fine when they don't have to go through Eastern Europe. Never had a porblem with Australian post.

[Sylvester]

For the record I would grade the coin at NEF.

I agree.

[Rover]

A few years ago me I managed to purchase 3 or 4 nice crowns, one of which is in deed the 1934 Crown this topic is all about.

I have been reading the various question and answers with interest , and wonder is my Crown is anywhere near the grading or value of the one being dicussed.

I attach a couple of photographs, and would be grateful if anyone would give me an idea what it's grade is and approximately its value.

I know this is quite difficult because you can either not see enough with a photograph or all the tiny marks and scratches standout and cloud the issue.

I would still value someones opinion.

[Rover]

A few years ago me I managed to purchase 3 or 4 nice crowns, one of which is in deed the 1934 Crown this topic is all about.

I have been reading the various question and answers with interest , and wonder is my Crown is anywhere near the grading or value of the one being dicussed.

I attach a couple of photographs, and would be grateful if anyone would give me an idea what it's grade is and approximately its value.

I know this is quite difficult because you can either not see enough with a photograph or all the tiny marks and scratches standout and cloud the issue.

I would still value someones opinion.

[Rover]

A few years ago I managed to purchase 3 or 4 nice crowns, one of which is indeed another of the 932 1934 Crown this topic is all about.

I have been reading the various question and answers with interest , and wonder is my Crown is anywhere near the grading or value of the one being dicussed.

I attach a photograph, and would be grateful if anyone would give me an idea what it's grade is and approximately its value.

I know this is quite difficult because you can either not see enough with a photograph or all the tiny marks and scratches standout and cloud the issue.

I would still value someones opinion.

[Peckris]

A few years ago I managed to purchase 3 or 4 nice crowns, one of which is indeed another of the 932 1934 Crown this topic is all about.

I have been reading the various question and answers with interest , and wonder is my Crown is anywhere near the grading or value of the one being dicussed.

I attach a photograph, and would be grateful if anyone would give me an idea what it's grade is and approximately its value.

I know this is quite difficult because you can either not see enough with a photograph or all the tiny marks and scratches standout and cloud the issue.

I would still value someones opinion.

It looks AUNC to me, though the pictures are rather small. As to value, if it's not Chinese then you're looking at a minimum of about £3000 but possibly quite a bit more at auction.

[Rover]

A few years ago I managed to purchase 3 or 4 nice crowns, one of which is indeed another of the 932 1934 Crown this topic is all about.

I have been reading the various question and answers with interest , and wonder is my Crown is anywhere near the grading or value of the one being dicussed.

I attach a photograph, and would be grateful if anyone would give me an idea what it's grade is and approximately its value.

I know this is quite difficult because you can either not see enough with a photograph or all the tiny marks and scratches standout and cloud the issue.

I would still value someones opinion.

It looks AUNC to me, though the pictures are rather small. As to value, if it's not Chinese then you're looking at a minimum of about £3000 but possibly quite a bit more at auction.

Thank you for your prompt reply,I did manage to upgrade the photographs eventually.

I don't know if you looked at these when giving your opinion or my first photographs which were of poor quality.

The 4 crowns I considered of good quality were all purchased from a very reliable source and hopefully are not chinese.

Can you or someone else please explain how one can tell if the coin is of chinese origin , having just joined the forum i'm not up to speed on these issues yet.

[azda]

A few years ago I managed to purchase 3 or 4 nice crowns, one of which is indeed another of the 932 1934 Crown this topic is all about.

I have been reading the various question and answers with interest , and wonder is my Crown is anywhere near the grading or value of the one being dicussed.

I attach a photograph, and would be grateful if anyone would give me an idea what it's grade is and approximately its value.

I know this is quite difficult because you can either not see enough with a photograph or all the tiny marks and scratches standout and cloud the issue.

I would still value someones opinion.

It looks AUNC to me, though the pictures are rather small. As to value, if it's not Chinese then you're looking at a minimum of about £3000 but possibly quite a bit more at auction.

Thank you for your prompt reply,I did manage to upgrade the photographs eventually.

I don't know if you looked at these when giving your opinion or my first photographs which were of poor quality.

The 4 crowns I considered of good quality were all purchased from a very reliable source and hopefully are not chinese.

Can you or someone else please explain how one can tell if the coin is of chinese origin , having just joined the forum i'm not up to speed on these issues yet.

The 1st step would be weight (not sure what this should be) but if its within tolerance then 2nd step for me personally would be a reputable dealer for more authentication. I'd go along with Peckris on the grade though, so if you do take it to a dealers you at least know its value and if he makes you an offer it should be a couple of 100 short of book price as these are quite rare and do sell.

[moneyer12]

i certainly wish i could find a wreath crown in a mixed lot, my 1927 cost me £125........................

[Red Riley]

The 1st step would be weight (not sure what this should be) but if its within tolerance then 2nd step for me personally would be a reputable dealer for more authentication. I'd go along with Peckris on the grade though, so if you do take it to a dealers you at least know its value and if he makes you an offer it should be a couple of 100 short of book price as these are quite rare and do sell.

Should be approx. 28.4g. As it is likely that only one or two (if any) 1934 crowns found their way to China, then any defects to the original coin will be repeated on the reproduction. Essentially the process used is for the forger to employ the genuine coin as a hub from which he then cuts a die and ultimately copy coins from that die. For this reason, many of the copies are far from high grade and can be as low as fine. Unfortunately I do not know the particulars of any 1934 forgeries but someone else on here may know, failing that a search of the internet might yield an answer.

Incidentally, there was a previous wave of forgeries emenating from the Middle East.

[Rover]

The 1st step would be weight (not sure what this should be) but if its within tolerance then 2nd step for me personally would be a reputable dealer for more authentication. I'd go along with Peckris on the grade though, so if you do take it to a dealers you at least know its value and if he makes you an offer it should be a couple of 100 short of book price as these are quite rare and do sell.

Should be approx. 28.4g. As it is likely that only one or two (if any) 1934 crowns found their way to China, then any defects to the original coin will be repeated on the reproduction. Essentially the process used is for the forger to employ the genuine coin as a hub from which he then cuts a die and ultimately copy coins from that die. For this reason, many of the copies are far from high grade and can be as low as fine. Unfortunately I do not know the particulars of any 1934 forgeries but someone else on here may know, failing that a search of the internet might yield an answer.

Incidentally, there was a previous wave of forgeries emenating from the Middle East.

I have now weighed the crown as advised and I am pleased to say it weighed 28.3g.

Which hopefully is within the tolerance of the accepted weight of this crown and the weighing scales.

With all your advice, I shall now consider my next move.

Thank you for your help.

[Peckris]

The 1st step would be weight (not sure what this should be) but if its within tolerance then 2nd step for me personally would be a reputable dealer for more authentication. I'd go along with Peckris on the grade though, so if you do take it to a dealers you at least know its value and if he makes you an offer it should be a couple of 100 short of book price as these are quite rare and do sell.

Should be approx. 28.4g. As it is likely that only one or two (if any) 1934 crowns found their way to China, then any defects to the original coin will be repeated on the reproduction. Essentially the process used is for the forger to employ the genuine coin as a hub from which he then cuts a die and ultimately copy coins from that die. For this reason, many of the copies are far from high grade and can be as low as fine. Unfortunately I do not know the particulars of any 1934 forgeries but someone else on here may know, failing that a search of the internet might yield an answer.

Incidentally, there was a previous wave of forgeries emenating from the Middle East.

I have now weighed the crown as advised and I am pleased to say it weighed 28.3g.

Which hopefully is within the tolerance of the accepted weight of this crown and the weighing scales.

With all your advice, I shall now consider my next move.

Thank you for your help.

Out of interest, which area of the country are you in?

[Rover]

The 1st step would be weight (not sure what this should be) but if its within tolerance then 2nd step for me personally would be a reputable dealer for more authentication. I'd go along with Peckris on the grade though, so if you do take it to a dealers you at least know its value and if he makes you an offer it should be a couple of 100 short of book price as these are quite rare and do sell.

Should be approx. 28.4g. As it is likely that only one or two (if any) 1934 crowns found their way to China, then any defects to the original coin will be repeated on the reproduction. Essentially the process used is for the forger to employ the genuine coin as a hub from which he then cuts a die and ultimately copy coins from that die. For this reason, many of the copies are far from high grade and can be as low as fine. Unfortunately I do not know the particulars of any 1934 forgeries but someone else on here may know, failing that a search of the internet might yield an answer.

Incidentally, there was a previous wave of forgeries emenating from the Middle East.

I have now weighed the crown as advised and I am pleased to say it weighed 28.3g.

Which hopefully is within the tolerance of the accepted weight of this crown and the weighing scales.

With all your advice, I shall now consider my next move.

Thank you for your help.

Out of interest, which area of the country are you in?

I'm in the East Of England

[azda]

The 1st step would be weight (not sure what this should be) but if its within tolerance then 2nd step for me personally would be a reputable dealer for more authentication. I'd go along with Peckris on the grade though, so if you do take it to a dealers you at least know its value and if he makes you an offer it should be a couple of 100 short of book price as these are quite rare and do sell.

Should be approx. 28.4g. As it is likely that only one or two (if any) 1934 crowns found their way to China, then any defects to the original coin will be repeated on the reproduction. Essentially the process used is for the forger to employ the genuine coin as a hub from which he then cuts a die and ultimately copy coins from that die. For this reason, many of the copies are far from high grade and can be as low as fine. Unfortunately I do not know the particulars of any 1934 forgeries but someone else on here may know, failing that a search of the internet might yield an answer.

Incidentally, there was a previous wave of forgeries emenating from the Middle East.

I have now weighed the crown as advised and I am pleased to say it weighed 28.3g.

Which hopefully is within the tolerance of the accepted weight of this crown and the weighing scales.

With all your advice, I shall now consider my next move.

Thank you for your help.

Out of interest, which area of the country are you in?

I'm in the East Of England

Chris, the owner of this site might be able to help you should you decide to sell or require help in that direction.

[Peckris]

The 1st step would be weight (not sure what this should be) but if its within tolerance then 2nd step for me personally would be a reputable dealer for more authentication. I'd go along with Peckris on the grade though, so if you do take it to a dealers you at least know its value and if he makes you an offer it should be a couple of 100 short of book price as these are quite rare and do sell.

Should be approx. 28.4g. As it is likely that only one or two (if any) 1934 crowns found their way to China, then any defects to the original coin will be repeated on the reproduction. Essentially the process used is for the forger to employ the genuine coin as a hub from which he then cuts a die and ultimately copy coins from that die. For this reason, many of the copies are far from high grade and can be as low as fine. Unfortunately I do not know the particulars of any 1934 forgeries but someone else on here may know, failing that a search of the internet might yield an answer.

Incidentally, there was a previous wave of forgeries emenating from the Middle East.

I have now weighed the crown as advised and I am pleased to say it weighed 28.3g.

Which hopefully is within the tolerance of the accepted weight of this crown and the weighing scales.

With all your advice, I shall now consider my next move.

Thank you for your help.

Out of interest, which area of the country are you in?

I'm in the East Of England

Ok - well if the NE then there's the York Fair, if the SE there's quite a few in London, but if the E Midlands then my knowledge of fairs has run out (though if not too far from the W Midlands there's the Midlands Fair near the NEC). Either way, that's a rich source of expertise and advice on your coin.

[moneyer12]

The 1st step would be weight (not sure what this should be) but if its within tolerance then 2nd step for me personally would be a reputable dealer for more authentication. I'd go along with Peckris on the grade though, so if you do take it to a dealers you at least know its value and if he makes you an offer it should be a couple of 100 short of book price as these are quite rare and do sell.

Should be approx. 28.4g. As it is likely that only one or two (if any) 1934 crowns found their way to China, then any defects to the original coin will be repeated on the reproduction. Essentially the process used is for the forger to employ the genuine coin as a hub from which he then cuts a die and ultimately copy coins from that die. For this reason, many of the copies are far from high grade and can be as low as fine. Unfortunately I do not know the particulars of any 1934 forgeries but someone else on here may know, failing that a search of the internet might yield an answer.

Incidentally, there was a previous wave of forgeries emenating from the Middle East.

I have now weighed the crown as advised and I am pleased to say it weighed 28.3g.

Which hopefully is within the tolerance of the accepted weight of this crown and the weighing scales.

With all your advice, I shall now consider my next move.

Thank you for your help.

Out of interest, which area of the country are you in?

I'm in the East Of England

Ok - well if the NE then there's the York Fair, if the SE there's quite a few in London, but if the E Midlands then my knowledge of fairs has run out (though if not too far from the W Midlands there's the Midlands Fair near the NEC). Either way, that's a rich source of expertise and advice on your coin.

and there is also the leeds coin fair which is now held in wakefield every month.