1820 George III pattern crown by Webb & Mills

[Sergy]

Hello.

Any suggestion where can I read about it?

[Rob]

Hello.

Any suggestion where can I read about it?

The most complete description with some background info appears to be in Linecar & Stone - English Proof and Pattern Crown-Size Pieces p.54

[Sergy]

Hello.

Any suggestion where can I read about it?

The most complete description with some background info appears to be in Linecar & Stone - English Proof and Pattern Crown-Size Pieces p.54

Hello, thank you.

It's funny but I DO have this book and I have seen this page, but there are few words over there.

And I still have some questions:

1) Was it a private initiative or it was a competition by Royal Mint?

2) Why it is quite common?

3) Why it was rejected (and was not it)?

[Hussulo]

Thats a nice looking pattern. One which I would like to own.

I have to say though that George III looks a little angry and in my opinion he is depicted somewhat differently than he looks like on most coins and medals.

[Teg]

First - I am no expert in this matter!

As Rob said -Linecar & Stone - English Proof and Pattern Crown-Size Pieces p.54

They state that the coin was commissioned by Mudie (James) - so no royal mint connection.

To me it seems that he had already commissioned the bust from Webb for his 'National Medals'

series

LINK HERE

Take a look at the first medal.

Linecar & Stone give the date of the pattern as 1820. George III died in Jan 1820, so

perhaps he asked Mills to produce a reverse as a memento of the dead King.

With Wyon and Pistrucci at the mint I find it hard to think that this was a serious attempt

as a pattern for the coinage.

Teg

[scottishmoney]

Enough with all the fooforah about the attribution, I like the piece. Very well executed, especially the monarchs portrait.

[Sergy]

First - I am no expert in this matter!

As Rob said -Linecar & Stone - English Proof and Pattern Crown-Size Pieces p.54

They state that the coin was commissioned by Mudie (James) - so no royal mint connection.

To me it seems that he had already commissioned the bust from Webb for his 'National Medals'

series

LINK HERE

Take a look at the first medal.

Linecar & Stone give the date of the pattern as 1820. George III died in Jan 1820, so

perhaps he asked Mills to produce a reverse as a memento of the dead King.

With Wyon and Pistrucci at the mint I find it hard to think that this was a serious attempt

as a pattern for the coinage.

Teg

Ok. Thank you.

[Dg43]

I don't know how often they come up for sale, but I saw one on ebay about 3 months ago - went for about a grand.

Seller was shown holding it between ungloved fingers! It had a nasty fingermark on the obv!!!!!!!!

David

[Sergy]

I don't know how often they come up for sale, but I saw one on ebay about 3 months ago - went for about a grand.

Seller was shown holding it between ungloved fingers! It had a nasty fingermark on the obv!!!!!!!!

David

By the way it has the plain edge, so beware of forgeries.

[Farthing]

Excellent possibility to buy it http://www.wnauctions.com/cgi-bin/viewlot....=2&lot=1771

[Sergy]

Excellent possibility to buy it <a href="http://www.wnauctions.com/cgi-bin/viewlot.pl?site=1&sale=2&lot=1771" target="_blank">http://www.wnauctions.com/cgi-bin/viewlot....=2&lot=1771</a>

Thank you.

But if it's US dollars... well tooo great expectations.