1901 Penny, NARROW Date, BP1901Aa?

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In your collection do you have a 1901 Penny, NARROW Date, BP1901Aa?

How rare are these? I remember reading somewhere they are few and far between.

Thanks,

[PWA 1967]

Rare in High grade although often confused with BP1901Ab which is the normal one, there is also one not in Gouby as very similar to Ab.

Terry is probably the best person to ask as the coin pictured in the book is his.

Edited 2 hours ago by PWA 1967

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Ok thanks,  Gouby BP1901Ab 10 3/4 teeth the center of the last one is not over the gap. The one which is not covered by Gouby similar to Ab where is the last 1 positioned?

Thanks

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12 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

Rare in High grade although often confused with BP1901Ab which is the normal one, there is also one not in Gouby as very similar to Ab.

I was under the impression they are rare in any grade with only a handful known?

 

[PWA 1967]

6 minutes ago, absence of uniformity said:

I was under the impression they are rare in any grade with only a handful known?

 

Correct although in High grade i have only seen Terrys.

Looking at your picture and reading your comments, maybe you have just read my post from the one i sold a couple of weeks ago ?

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8 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

Correct although in High grade i have only seen Terrys.

Looking at your picture and reading your comments, maybe you have just read my post from the one i sold a couple of weeks ago ?

I did read it yes. I found what I think is a BP1901Aa and was simply wondering how rare they are.

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2 minutes ago, absence of uniformity said:

I did read it yes. I found what I think is a BP1901Aa and was simply wondering how rare they are.

Since you mention there is another not listed in Gouby possibly its not  BP1901Aa the one I have.

[PWA 1967]

1 minute ago, absence of uniformity said:

Since you mention there is another not listed in Gouby possibly its not  BP1901Aa the one I have.

Easier just to share a clear picture of the date of the one you have.

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2 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

Easier just to share a clear picture of the date of the one you have.

Not the best picture so its difficult to really see. The central line of the last one appears to fall in the gap.

[PWA 1967]

Does look like one, to be sure would be better without the lines, although you have it in hand and should be easy to tell.

A good indicator indicator is a gap between the last 1 and the tooth below.

Also your own seems to hang over the right of the tooth rather than above it.

These are only tiny differences and why its often confused with the common one.

I am more drawn to being the common one Serifs and gap dont look right although would be much better without the last line which is a distraction.

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[PWA 1967]

The one i sold which is the same as the book.

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10 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

The one i sold which is the same as the book.

It does look similar hard to say, I dont have the coin to hand. It cost me £1 so worth a punt.

[PWA 1967]

I think its the common one and yes they do look similar and why they are often confused.

That i do know as bought a few that have gone straight in the bin. 

[terrysoldpennies]

Hi  Mike  To answer your question I personally have only seen four of the Aa type .   Below is a picture of the four types I have come across .   Top is Ac with the 1 directly over the tooth [ I have seen about six of this type].     Next down is the normal common type Ab with the 1 slightly to the left of the tooth but the 1 its self is almost touching the tooth .   Third down is very similar to Ab but the 1  is more to the left of tooth and importantly has a gap between it and the tooth { not listed by Gouby as its to similar to the common Ab type}   bottom is Aa with the 1 directly over the gap between the teeth ,  all three of the rare types have that space between the 1 and the row of outer teeth, as Pete has already said

[mick1271]

I'm confused with mine now . I had this down as an Ab , but it has a gap to the teeth .Is it a straightforward Ab ?