600hrs+ of intensive searching and I Found one.

[absence of uniformity]

I am delighted to share with you my most recent discovery ! I still cant believe it. I search to the point I literally become so sick and tired and just as I'm about to have a break as I cant take no more.......  I find something like this, then the motivation is completely replenished. £16 with postage.... I feel a bit bad if im honest, I wouldnt call the seller a dealer but looking at the inventory not sure how they missed this one. I have only included part image of the coin as I would like to let the dust settle, I dont want the UK seller to get wind of it. In time I will share the complete coin.

Edited 23 hours ago by absence of uniformity

[absence of uniformity]

8 minutes ago, absence of uniformity said:

I am delighted to share with you my most recent discovery ! I still cant believe it. I search to the point I literally become so sick and tired and just as I'm about to have a break as I cant take no more.......  I find something like this, then the motivation is completely replenished. £16 with postage.... I feel a bit bad if im honest, I wouldnt call the seller a dealer but looking at the inventory not sure how they missed this one. I have only included part image of the coin as I would like to let the dust settle, I dont want the UK seller to get wind of it. In time I will share the complete coin.

The overall grade of the coin is really not bad, looking at the other examples my coin is certainly not the lowest grade/condition of the known examples.

[absence of uniformity]

I would like to try find one example of every known variety. In 3 months I have found two of the rarer coins in the list, I have accepted I may have to purchase a few attributed types but the more I find the more I'm obliged to continue with this challenge. Its unlikely but lets say I did compile a collection of all the known varieties for the bun head penny series. Do people auction complete collections? I plan to invest in books. Does anyone have any books for sale please which may be of use to me.

[SilverAge3]

Congrats. That's a great win. I have similarly been spending hours over several years looking for some varieties, such as high tide 1897 penny. With those, even some attributed (in TPG slabs) are incorrect, let alone dozens of dealers who list it as such, erroneously. With so many bad listings of it, I feel even less likely to find an actual one unattributed. But I keep looking, in madness, haha. I may break down and buy a correctly identified one, even with the markup. I feel aside from maybe 1902, most of the rarer tide variants will just be too tough to acquire, otherwise, esp where I am located.

[absence of uniformity]

4 hours ago, SilverAge3 said:

Congrats. That's a great win. I have similarly been spending hours over several years looking for some varieties, such as high tide 1897 penny. With those, even some attributed (in TPG slabs) are incorrect, let alone dozens of dealers who list it as such, erroneously. With so many bad listings of it, I feel even less likely to find an actual one unattributed. But I keep looking, in madness, haha. I may break down and buy a correctly identified one, even with the markup. I feel aside from maybe 1902, most of the rarer tide variants will just be too tough to acquire, otherwise, esp where I am located.

Thank you ! For 1897V+xBP1897C1+CF148 I can see a brown AU example sold for $1200 through LCA and in Fine grade around $120 and going back to 2004 I can see around 14 examples have been sold through London coins (LCA) If you can settle for an example around (F) Im sure if you persist you can find one or purchase one?. Its probably much less likely to find a high grade coin unattributed. But never say never, I would imagine higher grade coins attract more attention even for standard types meaning more people have checked over the coin. 

[absence of uniformity]

4 hours ago, SilverAge3 said:

Congrats. That's a great win. I have similarly been spending hours over several years looking for some varieties, such as high tide 1897 penny. With those, even some attributed (in TPG slabs) are incorrect, let alone dozens of dealers who list it as such, erroneously. With so many bad listings of it, I feel even less likely to find an actual one unattributed. But I keep looking, in madness, haha. I may break down and buy a correctly identified one, even with the markup. I feel aside from maybe 1902, most of the rarer tide variants will just be too tough to acquire, otherwise, esp where I am located.

You mention dealers listing the coin in error, in my spreadsheet I have this image which I made which may help you id the type in poor condition and or poor photos in the sellers listing

[absence of uniformity]

5 minutes ago, absence of uniformity said:

You mention dealers listing the coin in error, in my spreadsheet I have this image which I made which may help you id the type in poor condition and or poor photos in the sellers listing

I find a indentifier like this then simply search high and low and open as many examples on the computer in seperate windows once I have 20-30 coins open in the browser go through each one focussing on the identifier only and then close the windows as I check them.

[absence of uniformity]

What the heck, Im just going to share it ! So pleased it's the reverse which is in better condition. I know on these rarities grade is kind of irrelevant but what is your opinion please?

Thanks

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[terrysoldpennies]

6 hours ago, SilverAge3 said:

Congrats. That's a great win. I have similarly been spending hours over several years looking for some varieties, such as high tide 1897 penny. With those, even some attributed (in TPG slabs) are incorrect, let alone dozens of dealers who list it as such, erroneously. With so many bad listings of it, I feel even less likely to find an actual one unattributed. But I keep looking, in madness, haha. I may break down and buy a correctly identified one, even with the markup. I feel aside from maybe 1902, most of the rarer tide variants will just be too tough to acquire, otherwise, esp where I am located.

 

1 hour ago, absence of uniformity said:

Thank you ! For 1897V+xBP1897C1+CF148 I can see a brown AU example sold for $1200 through LCA and in Fine grade around $120 and going back to 2004 I can see around 14 examples have been sold through London coins (LCA) If you can settle for an example around (F) Im sure if you persist you can find one or purchase one?. Its probably much less likely to find a high grade coin unattributed. But never say never, I would imagine higher grade coins attract more attention even for standard types meaning more people have checked over the coin. 

That's an amazing stroke of luck to find an Freeman 90 unattributed. I've been collecting for twenty years and have made some fantastic finds , but have never seen an F90 for sale any where other than in a specialist auction .  I have though had the luck back in January to find an 1897  F148 in AU condition after searching all that time. Examples turn up but normally in poor condition .  My example is pictured below.  But good luck with your quest to find an example of all Victoria pennies as some are thought to be unique , such as the F19  1861  2+F 

[absence of uniformity]

31 minutes ago, terrysoldpennies said:

 

That's an amazing stroke of luck to find an Freeman 90 unattributed. I've been collecting for twenty years and have made some fantastic finds , but have never seen an F90 for sale any where other than in a specialist auction .  I have though had the luck back in January to find an 1897  F148 in AU condition after searching all that time. Examples turn up but normally in poor condition .  My example is pictured below.  But good luck with your quest to find an example of all Victoria pennies as some are thought to be unique , such as the F19  1861  2+F 

Thank you very much ! 

That F148 is really nice, amazing find.

I dont expect to find another F90, wont stop me looking though....

1861 2+F maybe a tricky one to find although the 1863 F44 slender 3 Freemans own example was thought to unique for many years then three more examples turned up.

It's a monumental challenge especially unattributed to try and find all the types.

If there is one 2+F I have hope there is more. Same for the other types.

 

[secret santa]

I have added the F90 to my website - let me know if you would like a personal attribution.