Have you seen a 1874 Penny with what appears to be two extra plumes?

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I noticed this 1874 penny with what appears a difference to the back of the helmet plume.

What do you think?

thanks.

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Interestingly nobody gave an opinion on this coin. Is no news good news?

[absence of uniformity]

Is silence the loudest form of confirmation?

[alfnail]

Yes, but on a different reverse

[secret santa]

Ian

Your pictures saves as an F73 variant - are you sure that it's not an F66 variant ?

It's  reverse G and I've seen another F66 with identical extra plumes.

The extra plumes crop up occasionally and Gouby describes the 1862 3 plumes as "an improvised repair to the plumes" but I'm not convinced that is the cause although I have no alternative suggestion.

Richard

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I've just checked and it is the F66 that I've previously seen and recorded.

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9 hours ago, alfnail said:

Yes, but on a different reverse

Amazing, wonderful coin !

The coin I have is 7+H, when you say yes do you think the coin I have shows additional plumes, Im asking because the coins I have seen with additional plumes they always have three extra plumes and they are placed higher than the anomaly shown on the coin I have?

Thank you.

 

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41 minutes ago, secret santa said:

I've just checked and it is the F66 that I've previously seen and recorded.

Hi Richard,

Don't know why I had it as an F73, it is an F66. I don't have a picture of the obverse but the guy who offered me it advised it was an F66 at the time.....back in 2015.

I believe he sold it around the same time, but cannot remember where.

I probably should have taken it for £400!!

Maybe ghosting of the bun, on a slightly rotated dies piece??

 

[secret santa]

The descriptor "extra plumes" is really only a handy identifier to describe the feature of additional spikes of metal appearing from Britannia's helmet.

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This is the obverse and there is also an additional tuft of hair at the back of Victoria's neck which suggests die clashes are involved..

[jelida]

They would certainly be very poor attempts at plume repair if intentional, and I agree that die clashes may well be involved though as in so many cases of minor ‘varieties’ there will probably never be an actual proof . And I do of course have a vested interest in ensuring that top end prices remain high! (See your ‘Rarest Pennies’, of course , Richard!)

Jerry

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I have an 1863 penny with exactly the same tuft of hair.

 

 

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11 hours ago, secret santa said:

This is the obverse and there is also an additional tuft of hair at the back of Victoria's neck which suggests die clashes are involved..

Pretty sure that's the exact same coin from 2015, but for some reason I couldn't seem to find the obverse picture on my computer records!!