absence of uniformity Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Please see the attached image. I have circled what appears to be a difference in the hair both coins are the same year and the same die pairing. The toned coin shows what appears to be machine doubling to leaves in the wreath and to some of the legends. Could this be the reason for the difference in the hair. I have not included a full image of the coin because I'm still thinking whether I will purchase the coin or not. Quote
absence of uniformity Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 Here you can see the legends and the leaves. Quote
absence of uniformity Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 My question's please to the forum are; 1) Do you think this is machine doubling? 2) Is the difference in the hair as result of machine doubling? many thanks, Quote
jelida Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Buy the coin if it ticks boxes in your collection, but not just because of the doubling which is so common as to be normal especially in the earlier years of this coinage. Jerry 1 Quote
secret santa Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Yes, buy it if you like it but, in my opinion, there's nothing really to get excited about. 1 Quote
Peckris 2 Posted March 16 Posted March 16 I agree with Richard and Jerry - there's nothing there that couldn't be accounted for by a difference in grade or die wear, or an infinitesimal recutting of the tiniest details. Quote
absence of uniformity Posted March 16 Author Posted March 16 On 3/14/2026 at 7:54 PM, jelida said: Buy the coin if it ticks boxes in your collection, but not just because of the doubling which is so common as to be normal especially in the earlier years of this coinage. Jerry Thank you, I was only interested if the differences count as variety. Now its clear this is not the case. 1 Quote
absence of uniformity Posted March 16 Author Posted March 16 On 3/14/2026 at 8:05 PM, secret santa said: Yes, buy it if you like it but, in my opinion, there's nothing really to get excited about. Understood thank you. Quote
absence of uniformity Posted March 16 Author Posted March 16 55 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said: I agree with Richard and Jerry - there's nothing there that couldn't be accounted for by a difference in grade or die wear, or an infinitesimal recutting of the tiniest details. Ok thank you for this. Quote
jelida Posted March 17 Posted March 17 22 hours ago, absence of uniformity said: Thank you, I was only interested if the differences count as variety. Now its clear this is not the case. And welcome to the forum. It is good to question any anomalies you may spot as true new varieties are still out there - at least three genuinely significant new Victorian pennies have first been described here over the last decade or so. Don’t be afraid to keep posting and show any interesting acquisitions. Jerry Quote
absence of uniformity Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 51 minutes ago, jelida said: And welcome to the forum. It is good to question any anomalies you may spot as true new varieties are still out there - at least three genuinely significant new Victorian pennies have first been described here over the last decade or so. Don’t be afraid to keep posting and show any interesting acquisitions. Jerry Thank you ! I Just posted another coin. 1874 with some differences to the back of the helmet plume, possible extra plumes, I'm not sure. 1 Quote
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