Need help identifying coins please

[Frack]

My late mum kept these coins with her at all times saying they were 'worth a bit'. I think the gold coloured one is a sovereign but I'm not entirely sure.

Could anyone shed any light please and whether they actually do have any value?

Thanks very much

 

 

 

Edited March 13, 2023 by Frack

[Coinery]

The first one is a pewter replica of an Elizabeth I threepence, worth around £1 unfortunately.

[Martinminerva]

And the second one also looks like a replica or copy: there appears to be some silvery metal showing through the "gold" where the coin is damaged above the queen's head. Copies of sovereigns are incredibly prevalent, sadly. If so, it would have basically no value at all. Sorry.

[mick1271]

The top one is definitely a copy . The sovereign may be an ex mount with the silvery metal being left over solder , but as stated , they are commonly faked , so hard to tell from a pic.

Edited March 13, 2023 by mick1271
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[DrLarry]

the second one the gold does not look like a typical chinese copy although I can only download  small version  ...do you know what the weight is? 

[Frack]

It weights 9g according to the kitchen scale

 

https://ibb.co/3rP0Nv1

 

https://ibb.co/9qHmzsF

[Martinminerva]

A genuine sovereign weighs 7.98 grams, so I am even more suspicious. Wonder if it is correct diameter, and, more significantly, thickness? Suspect strongly a lead-based core (the silvery stuff showing through) and then gilded. The fact it was with another pewter forgery also makes me very dubious.

The only way to be certain is to take it to a reputable jeweller for proper appraisal including chemical testing.

Edited March 24, 2023 by Martinminerva