1836 Threepenny Bit Victoria

[sgpowelluk]

Hi all,

this is my first post having joined on behalf of my father-in-law, who is hoping to find a bit of assistance and advice around some of the coins he has casually collected over the years.

His first unusual one is he has a 1836 Threepenny bit but with Victoria's head on it rather than William's. Could this be a test coin or a fake?

Hope these type of questions are acceptable in the forum and whether it's OK to ask further queries around the other coins he can't find answers to.

Regards

 

Steve

[azda]

Hi Steve and welcome to the forum. 1836 would indeed or should be William, pictures would be good though if at all possible.....

[sgpowelluk]

Thanks Azda for the welcome!

I've attached some images.

The condition is far from good, but it's more the anomaly of the date and Victoria being of interest.

Will be interested to hear peoples' thoughts.

Regards

 

Steve 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 26, 2017 by sgpowelluk

[mrbadexample]

Just a damaged 1886 I think?

[sgpowelluk]

Thanks mrbadexample. When you say damaged do you mean; deliberately, miss-struck or wear and tear?

Would the three have a flat top if it was a genuine 3?

Do I need to look with proper magnification?

Thanks

 

Steve

[Martinminerva]

I agree. The more numerous and smaller border beads on the reverse proves it has to date post-1866, according to the Davies die identifiers in his British Silver Coins book, plus the obverse too has to be a later type as it is in lower relief.

I suspect either accidental damage or else someone "tinkering" with the date to produce a curiosity.

 

[VickySilver]

Believe that an 1886 that is hard to look at. 

 

Also, Vick was not a "lock" for queen, let alone the actual one in 1836!

Now, if it was a nicely preserved 1837, that would be a different affair....

Edited August 26, 2017 by VickySilver

[copper123]

most early silver threepence have no date visable so I would go with the above.

It would be impossable to be a 1836 anyway as it was not known that victoria would be queen till william died in 1837

[mrbadexample]

5 hours ago, sgpowelluk said:

When you say damaged do you mean; deliberately, miss-struck or wear and tear?

Just battered and bruised I think.