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comparing the bun heads
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comparing the shields
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comparing the three Gothic heads
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the Penny
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larger lettering and distinctively different ship the date is different. Interestingly the anatomy varies between the two this one follows the mistake made by the Royal Mint engraving which attempts to put the trident in line with the elbow , the ship is badly modelled
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I seem to have two distinct varieties in design for the ONE PENNY
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The six Pence #446
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this one is in white metal different to the one listed in Rogers #445
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There is some compelling evidence for the company being German in the Shilling of this series . It is hard to see in the images in Rogers for #442 if he just did not see this error in the lettering or we are dealing with another variety. Either way he reads it as simply saying ONE SHILLING in the two examples I have they read ONE SKILLING on the first the K seems to have been attempted to be corrected on the second the K is clearly just as it is .
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THIS fLORIN IS THE wHITE METAL VERSION 444 D
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The Florin Four varieties of metaL HAVE BEEN USED #444 A TO D THIS S THE SILVERED bRASS
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the half Crown #444d the white Metal RRR*
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The Half Crown in Brass #443 in Rogers
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D and Co's I will list what I have and begin some discussion on a few variants that dont seem to be listed in Rogers. First this Gothic Sovereign Or half sov ...definitely is seems it is supposed to be a shield Sov of some kind and still has a lot of gilt I will try compare the shield with the other young head Half Sov and the Crown and on the obverse I will compare the gothic head used for the Florin These all seem to be plain edged all 13 mm and 0.7 mm thick although this I will have to check more closely as some appear thicker The Gold Gothic .....is it a MULE of the florin? why then is it finished in Gold ?
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they are very different designs? I don't know a great deal about these tokens . Do we know if they were made by more than one company? I know there is also a satirical version with Duke of Cumberland ? replaced by a monkey
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the rarest one of this series is the model with the Vertical lines i think listed as Freeman 797 as unique but Peck 2088 says there are three known
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it is interesting this thread on model pennies and half pennies I have a few a dozen or so some varieties mostly because they are listed in Rogers I suppose as they had full intrinsic value they are deemed to be more than toycoins ...it was a clever experiment really I am not sure why the mint did not run with it ...even Wyon (the elder I think) was impressed
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nice quality
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D and Co. Drentwett & Co. whilst the Co. is English Rogers and others believe the company to be based in Nuremberg from the 1860's to 1923 I have one addition unlisted in Rogers and some variations which I will add later. I know I am ignoring the elephant in the room at the present time by not focusing on British Lauer coins . This is, in part, because they are quite well researched and the quantities are in sufficient numbers to allow us to find variations. I will add the new example later of a Gothic head with a Sovereign reverse which is Gilt . I am sure as Rogers says many new examples will be discovered and I am happy to have at least, found one.
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to be honest I am interested in your opinion but wanted to know what they were and how they worked so I would still like to know what they are. It is entirely up to whoever wants or does not want to use them, I very much would hope that no one would alter coins on this forumit was the chemistry that interested me
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Tell me about Toning Fluid please? I could look it up but I am sure I will get a much more colourful description from you guys
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yes it is very odd looking that 75H she looks as if she has been down the ORANGE -OUTang Tanning unit to give her an all over coppery feel ...along with some cosmetic surgery ....still at that price I am not surprised
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yeah but funny it just arrived the I is missing and it says VICTOR A REGINA she has one hell of a nose on her