The Coinery

SOLD to Mr B - Thank you Will post this morning or latest Monday

I have a F.165 but its a low grade: 15 Make me an offer.

He has had too much beer - or sun maybe . . . .

That is a beautiful coin. I don't think the photo does it justice. If it is ever up for sale please give me first refusal. Can you add more photos of your Florin highlights. There is another variant of this year which has just one "." after Britt in place of the Britt:

George 5th 1911 Penny Freeman 171 Dies 1+A UNC / Grade 78 UIN: 36193 FREE RECORDED POSTAGE £ 30

George 6th 1951 Penny Freeman 242 Dies 3+C MS65 / Grade 85 UIN: 2364 FREE RECORDED POSTAGE £ 71

Edward VII 1908 Penny Freeman 166 Grade 80 which is MS64 UIN: 38951 FREE RECORDED POSTAGE £ 74

Thank you for that Sword - Appreciated.

Hi Azda In my opinion a perfect set of Florins would be a specimen of every florin variation that was minted at UNC grade. An impossible task I grant you but at least I always have some thing to do while the Wife is watching soaps. So far I have 106 which leaves me about 90 more to find. I noticed you are in the Numismatic Research Group and I would appreciate your opinion upon actually how many Florins types / variations there are ? I have attached a couple of photos for your opinion The 1862 (ESC 820) is only grade 40 which is a VF / AU50. Interestingly this is the only one so far graded by CGS or LCGS.

I have always enjoyed looking at Brockages and coins with errors. Within my collection I have only 5 and I have attached photos. The copper coloured disc is actually or would have been an English 2p I look forward to seeing yours.

My mistake. I don't really use the foreign grading systems. Lovely coin !!!

MS 55 for the Gold Coin but the pics are low res.

1965 - MS 62 1967- MS 63 - Do they down grade for a mis-strike ?

Are you intimating I will NEVER obtain these ? My life is over. As for the Iluminati, if they exist and I know at least my VIP's exist, according to Urban Myth, they are well placed all over the world and they probably have all the VIP Brass 3D's. As for Area 51 been there and I did not see any Iluminati, spaceships or Brass 3D's. However I did see Mulder & Scully but that was on TV. Maybe Scully had a Brass 3D in here hand in the photo ?

I am still struggling finding 5 Brass 3D's to complete a set - Any grade would be greatly appreciated an purchased. They are all VIP proofs 1954 1957 1960 1962 1963 If you can help or point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it - so far which has been over 40 years I have managed to find: The Coinery B3.G6.1937.01 88 0000464 The Coinery B3.G6.1937.02 95 0012881 The Coinery B3.G6.1937.03 85 0036424 The Coinery B3.G6.1938.01 85 0001858 The Coinery B3.G6.1939.01 82 0007084 The Coinery B3.G6.1940.01 82 0007085 The Coinery B3.G6.1941.01 90 0000465 The Coinery B3.G6.1941.03 85 0007086 The Coinery B3.G6.1942.01 85 0007087 The Coinery B3.G6.1943.01 88 0004358 The Coinery B3.G6.1944.01 85 0008185 The Coinery B3.G6.1945.01 85 0007090 The Coinery B3.G6.1946.01 80 0007091 The Coinery B3.G6.1946.02 88 0014060 The Coinery B3.G6.1948.01 88 0000470 The Coinery B3.G6.1948.02 82 0007092 The Coinery B3.G6.1949.01 80 0007093 The Coinery B3.G6.1949.02 88 0039450 The Coinery B3.G6.1949.03 80 0036185 The Coinery B3.G6.1950.01 82 0006374 The Coinery B3.G6.1950.02 93 0014407 The Coinery B3.G6.1951.01 80 0007667 The Coinery B3.G6.1951.02 90 0010218 The Coinery B3.G6.1952.01 85 0020289 The Coinery B3.E2.1953.01 88 0000472 The Coinery B3.E2.1953.02 85 0010220 The Coinery B3.E2.1953.03 91 0003157 The Coinery B3.E2.1953.04 88 0035686 The Coinery B3.E2.1954.01 85 0000473 B3.E2.1954.02 The Coinery B3.E2.1955.01 85 0000474 The Coinery B3.E2.1956.01 82 0010224 The Coinery B3.E2.1957.01 85 0000476 B3.E2.1957.02 The Coinery B3.E2.1958.01 88 0000477 The Coinery B3.E2.1959.01 85 0000478 The Coinery B3.E2.1960.01 88 0017273 B3.E2.1960.02 The Coinery B3.E2.1961.01 88 0000480 The Coinery B3.E2.1962.01 85 0000481 B3.E2.1962.02 The Coinery B3.E2.1963.01 88 0000482 B3.E2.1963.02 The Coinery B3.E2.1964.01 82 0010232 The Coinery B3.E2.1965.01 88 0007109 The Coinery B3.E2.1966.01 88 0000485 The Coinery B3.E2.1967.01 85 0035340 The Coinery B3.E2.1970.01 95 0033190 I would also immediately buy any upgrades to what I currently have. Guy

Hi Paulus As 1920 Florins go this is a good example. What value do you put upon it ? This variant is Davies 1744 and is the most common, if you can say common as they are so hard to find of the 1920 florins. It can be defined by the I of Georgivs pointing to a space between teeth and the 0 in the date over a bead. There are 6 graded by CGS. I haven't seen any anywhere else The second variant Davies 1745 is the alleged medium hardest to find is where the 0 in the date is over a space between beads. There is 1 graded by CGS. I haven't seen any anywhere else The third and "Holy Grail" variant Davies 1746 is where the I of Georgivs pointing to left of a tooth. None graded by CGS but one rejected and if you know where one is I will buy it. I remember talking to a very well known dealer over 30 years ago and he smiled at me in a Fatherly way when I told him I was going to collect a perfect set of Florins and he put his hand on my shoulder and said "I admire your optimism Guy and good luck because you are going to need it", he laughed and is still laughing, in a friendly way now at my obsession with Florins. Within 50 years money and notes will no longer exist and I am wondering why I don't start collecting current currency . . . . Its just not that interesting to me but at least I would not spend countless hours making my back ache bending over coin fair tables.

Thank you very much for that Nick. Don't forget it took me 40yrs to find her !

Hi Nick Have a look at 36527. Its only grade 65 but its the best I have found in 40 yrs.

I will upload photos in the next few days. I have my own site www.thecoinery.co.uk I have not uploaded the majority of pics but if you follow this it will give you a taster: Half Crown - Victoria Check out my 1839 Proof Half Crown . . . If you want to see a few of my better specimens: 31624 4888 34050 35687 36522 40130 29117 36244 4843 2580

If you have a 1920 Florin for sale please let me know There are 4 variations and I am after all 4

When I first joined this site I met Peter PWA1967 and he told me I should speak my mind on the forum but carefully / thoughtfully does it. I am probably going to be locked in the virtual "Stocks" for what I am about to write and have Cabbages thrown at me but here goes . . . . . Being a Yorkshire Man you will know I am careful with my money. Like you I do not like to pay for some thing especially when you are used to receiving it for free. The old CGS site is now closed, gone and the new site is accessed via the London Coins site and they are still in process of making live some of the smaller, less used facilities. Yes £99 is a lot of money and I thought long and hard about it before sending my £ 99 to them but this is for a year and breaking that down to £ 8.25p per month it is not an extravagant amount of money when you consider a coffee and a bun from Costa costs over a tenner. I am passionate about my pennies and as I am a variation collection collector the information held on the new site is very useful to me and whilst the site was off I must admit I missed the ability to access the information held within the site. Apart from this variation information on the site, being able to view my coin collection in the various lists like denominations or monarchs is pleasing and helps me plan what my next purchase will be. There is always another coin. My Wife calls me a "Coin Addict". Lets not get onto Wives and coins. One other important point is that as new coins and new variations are discovered they are quick to put these on the site. I like my coins in their "coffins" or slabs for several reasons: Have you ever dropped a coin and been rewarded with an edge knock or worse ?. I have dropped several slabs on the floor with no damage whatsoever. I also appreciate the fact that in the past I have purchased coins which were labelled "UNC" only to find out later that they were A/UNC or lower. At least with the slabbing you have the grade what it says and should this ever be wrong you have their guarantee of a full market refund. A cautionary tale is that whilst a slab does float its floatation buoyancy is dependant upon the coin within. I can tell you that half sovereigns DO float in their slabs where as a full sovereign DOES NOT float. I know this as several of my slabs went into the river Ouse from my boat and the floaters we all half sovereigns. For the REAL coin seekers there are several sovereigns in the River Ouse outside the Kings Arms in York !!! Grading fees are always a topic of conversation. I would like mine done for free but it does cost money for wages, admin and also the slabs, labels and actual grading time. I have previously spoken to two of their graders and they told me its not just have a peek and guess / assess the grade. The year and denomination / monarch is a no brainer - we can all do that. Firstly they have to decide exactly which variation of the denomination for that year it is and also if it is a NEW variation. This can take some time bearing in mind the pressure they are under and the *ollocking they would get if they miss some thing. Then they have to assess the actual grade. They have a benchmark set which I have seen myself and this does help them decide on the grade. Then the coin goes to the second grader who basically does the same job again and the second grader gives their grade. Now they have two numbered grades, probably, hopefully both the same number. The coin and both graders numbers then go to the final grader who makes the final call upon the grade - A consensus of opinion is made is there is a difference of numbered grades. Now the coin has to be fitted in the slab, label attached and the UIN info uploaded - All for £ 15.75p. I believe this £ 15.75p covers all coins valued up to £800. I believe the maximum grading charge is £90 at a rate of 2% so that's up to a coin costing £ 4500. If you can afford a coin for £ 4500 then you can whinge about £ 90 . . . . Also its a business not a Non Profit organisation. How many of us would want to or could afford to work for free ? Coins that are not British cost a flat fee of £ 15.75p so If you collect other than British coins you will not pay more than £ 15.75p - that is my understanding. I believe in slabbing. Slabbing is HUGE in America and what happens over there usually happens in England. To sum up and this is the bottom line: We are coin collectors so we buy / trade coins. Do you want to be able to see ALL your coins in list format with photos ? Do you want to buy a coin that is exactly the grade / variation you want it to be and if not have the confidence that if it is not you are covered by their guarantee ? Do you want in depth information about the coins you have, their values and also their variations ? Do you want to damage your coins when you drop them and you will drop coins ? Finally and very important buying a slabbed coin is so much easier than buying a raw coin as you know exactly what you are going to get before you part with your money. I have now put on my Tin Helmet and Bullet Proof Vest and I await the back lash !

Great book Pete - Really pleased !!!

Hi Azda Thanks for that. BUT I have seen MS62 reslabbed as CGS 85 I have seen MS64 reslabbed as CGS 75 I totally agree with what you have put but I trust my mate Pete's grading more than those Coin Coffin Chaps !!!!