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I thought these two coins would be good examples of what Rob was saying . Here's a really clear example of a die clash image being transferred onto the reverse side , Note how sharp the outline of the queens head is right around Britannia . But on the George v coin below which shows extreme ghosting, the outline is softer and is formed by a slight depression forming the outline of the kings head, caused as Rob say's by the flow of metal .

1908 Freeman 164a e,bay find , rare in this grade much better than nearly all finds out there

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A very strange thing happened on ebay this evening . A 1863 Narrow 3 came up for auction at 6 o,clock with a starting price of 5£ . I straight away placed it in my favorites box , but also copied the pictures . I looked in a couple of times during the evening to see if any bids had been place , and none were. Then again I looked in at 10.30 , and to my surprise it took me to an 1861 coin . Now, I know I'm getting on a bit but I'm not that senile just yet. On my favorites it still says 1863, and to prove it the pictures are below.

Welcome to the forum Mike. You didn't say exactly what your interest is , but what ever it is , good hunting.

1930 missing sea. as far as I know undiscovered and unlisted . One for Richards list ! Maybe .

The rarity ratings attributed by Freeman are as accurate as could have been made at that time , but new types discovered since then would have suffered from the mass meltdown in the 1970s , where as the numbers of scarce and rare types known by Freeman and other collectors would have been enhanced , due to searching for and including into their collections , and hording , a good example would be the 1951 penny

I cant work out if your being serious or not Richard , it has to be a die crack running right through the 6 . Its not April fools day yet 😂 Some of us remember your Uncirculated narrow date 1877 !!!

Welcome to the H. Hope your health improves, and long may you continue to collect . Terry

There is one you've forgotten Ian , The cross between the Shytzu and the Poodle , A Shytpoo. Friendly but very messy

And may you all have a healthy and prosperous new year . Terry

I acquired this rare 1901 Gouby Aa with the second 1 directly over the gap recently . 😊

The letter underneath looks to be the original R which has partly filled, and has then been over punched on the die with another R . The ones with a different letter are all very sought after, or with the same letter rotated and over punched , but not really with the same letter re punched more or less in the same position.

And with top security postage of £1.65 😂

Why don't E.bay stop this kind of thing. !! Obviously a fake !! One Penny Coin | eBay Mind you I can't see anybody being mug enough to buy it ?

Ah well Pete we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Below is a 1953 Cameo I gave to Richard , and as you can see it has Minute scratches across the field , but none of them cross onto the queens effigy which is clearly frosted . it is the same on the 1898 penny, and it would be impossible to polish the field alone without running over onto the raised surfaces .

You could be right Martin , but the light when taking pictures can play some funny tricks . One thing is common to both coins though, is the tooth to the right side of the 8 has been cut on an angle to accommodate the positioning of the 8 over the tooth .

I must say that I agree and disagree with you Pete, You must remember you gave me a beautiful wide date 1898 penny , well it has the appearance of a cameo as on close inspection the effigy of the King and of Britannia are matt finished , but the field is semi polished but also has some scratch marks . These scratches run in absolutely straight lines up to the effigy , but not onto them , indicating they were made to the surface of the die or onto the planchet in the Mint before being pressed . Pic. below. In the case of Kipsters coin , also an exactly the same 1898 wide date penny with the effigies appearing to be Matt finished with the field semi polished and with scratches running in absolutely straight lines right up to and straight through the legend with no curving as it crosses the raised up letters, as it would do if you scratched across a coin. On Kipsters penny though it does look as though it my have been lightly polished around Britannia's arm . ?

I would think the quick answer to that is no, as I would consider both the bisecting types to rarer.

If its of any help these are all the different date widths I have come across. And this one with normal spacing but for the 7s being closer together which is scarce

1945 Tripled 9 penny and a 9 over 9 Both these coins came up for sale with the same seller, advertised as 9 over 9s , but on closer inspection one turned out to be a a triple 9 . David J Groom lists a tripled 9 type, but as far as I know its not listed by Gouby ? . Anyway I personally have never seen a picture of one , Groom lists it as ex rare . The first picture In close up is the Tripled 9 . Second close up picture has indicators of the three 9s . No1 is the top and bottom of the first 9 , No2 is the bottom and right side of the second 9 , and No3 is the normal 9 . It also appears to have a 4 over 4 . Below is the 9 over 9 Gouby Bb

I thought this 1926 ME I picked up recently for £250 was quite a lucky find.

I have rung the wife and told her I my be a little late home

A little Christmas cracker joke . What do you call a Duck on Drugs A QUACKHEAD