Paddy

No problem, I will let you know as soon as I see another. 😊

Not sure if this one fits into your target area? A friend of mine has it and may be interested in parting with it to a collector. It comes with an advertising paper from Richards of Sheffield - the manufacturer of the penknife.

I meant to say Amazon - I got to distracted!

Actually you can get the 2018 Spink book, including the decimal supplement, for £21 including free postage on Ebay at the moment.

Nothing wrong with them, just in that condition they are effectively scrap silver. Scrap on 200g of 50% silver is less than £40, so £65 for them is steep.

Another one in the same ilk:

I disagree on a number of counts: 1. It is graded XF, which is a US grading and not the same as EF on the UK system. On the UK system I still think it would be around VF. 2. Book prices are rarely if ever realised in real life. It is worth, as was said before, what someone will pay for it. If you live by the book you will die by the book - financially at any rate. 3. I doubt very much that it would make anything close to £690 on Ebay - more likely back where we started - £100 +/- £50. 4. I believe soliciting sales in this section is against forum rules and particularly unwelcome form unregistered users. I do agree with the congratulations on a nice find though!

I stand corrected. 😊 I still wont be buying it though...

It looks wrong to me! I can't say anything specific but the toning looks very artificial and exactly the style that they create on fake coins. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, even if the grade was correct.

At least they are real pennies, unlike this one - another of her listings: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1934-KING-GEORGE-V-PENNY-F210-UNC-MINT-STATE/302860191496?_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D52543%26meid%3D64850ed04f4c488ea6384dadabc9a804%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D302860817147%26itm%3D302860191496&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982

I don't know for sure bu I have not encountered a bidding engine that allows "+3" though most now allow "+1". It may be that their system did not comprehend what you were trying to do and so ignored it? Probably safer to have put in your $600 maximum - if no one else had shown any interest you would have got it for less, maybe at the reserve. Or you could have tried $550+1.

An interesting thought arises from this discussion: There are effectively two ways of leaving a commission these days at most auctions - by contacting the auction house and leaving a bid in the traditional way, or by using an "autobid" through an online bidding engine such as Saleroom.com or Easyliveauctions. I would suggest you are safer with the latter as the auction house has no knowledge of your maximum bid or how many other bidders have left bids - the system just bids on each and everyone's behalf up to their maximum. The opportunity for a crooked auctioneer to start at a single bidder's top price is removed completely, and they run a risk if they take bids off the wall of finding they have over-run the limit and are left with the lot and no bidder. LCA do not have an autobid facility through their website, which will always leave them open to accusations of sharp practice. One wonders why?

Yes - but if your bid is the only commission bid he has it should start with something like "I have £300 with me..." and then each time another bid comes in, online or in the room, he can take the next increment "with me" until your bid is passed. At any point that the others give up, that is the price you should get it for. If he has two or more advance bids, then he starts at the first bid that clears the others. If he starts at £2000 when yours is the only bid he has then he is breaking the law and risks losing his auctioneer's licence or worse. If he starts at £300, has no bidders online or in the room and starts taking non existing bids to try to bump the price up to your bid, he is also breaking the law - this is referred to as "taking bids off the wall". Some auction houses have bad reputations for either of these illegal practices and regular bidders avoid leaving bids with them.

If there were no other bids you should get it at the start price or reserve price! No matter how high the commission bids auctioneers are legally obliged to sell at the lowest possible amount. With an estimate of £300 to £400 it would imply that the reserve is around £300 or less (they are not allowed to have a reserve more than 10% over the lower estimate I believe), so with no other bidding you should get it for around £300. The only way you should be paying £1900 is if another bidder has put in a bid of £1800. (Or, to be pedantic, one of £1900 but lodged after yours.)

Whilst the listing annoys me and gives me no respect whatsoever for the seller, I would also say that any buyer sending off his £3.99 expecting to get an Uncirculated 1911 Penny is naive in the extreme. Maybe they would at least learn the lesson to read the description properly in the future! Caveat Emptor.

Any chance I could have a copy of the Dracott article too? I have tried searching through old posts on the forum and Dracott is mentioned all over the place but the downloads seem to have been tidied away. Cheers

I can't see it as reverse F - the hair on Britannia's neck is too small and not forming a line towards the shoulder. The ship is too well struck for a D, so we are left with E or G. Either the LCW is worn off and it is E (can I see a ghost of the W over the 6?) or it is a G and the door is what has worn off...

As you know I am relatively new to this variety business, but for what it's worth I think I agree on both those. F282 is Dies 7+G. Obverse 7 has the fourth leaf in the third lot down, which yours has. Reverse G has the door on the lighthouse, which yours does. F321 is dies 11+J. Reverse - it can only be J or L and L has the H of Halfpenny much closer to the lighthouse. With reverse J it can only be obverse 11 or 13, and the rose is too indistinct (I think) to be 13. Most of the other distinguishing features are worn away so only a best guess. ... but feel free to correct me!

Hopefully it was because he was being detained at the pleasure of Her Majesty... 😉

This one amused me today:

Final update - Annual report is due out in the week commencing 3rd September.

I raised the question of inaccurate figures with the RM and got this response: "Good afternoon Paddy, All 2017 mintage figures will be updated on the website following the release of our Annual Report. Kind regards, Ceri Ceri Davies UK Account Manager" I raised the query again regarding the 2016 figures being incorrect for the £1 coins and got: "Yes, we will ensure these are updated the same time. Kind regards, Ceri" So here is hoping!

Yes - sadly very common. As a part time seller at markets I am delighted if I can get £1 for them. It is the usual problem of supply and demand - there are millions of them out there and very few people who want them.

Extreme angle is correct. Reads "Foundation of Liberty". No idea why they went for italics!