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Yours is technically a counter or jeton, but that doesn't get us any nearer an identification/origin. I'll dig through some of my old paper files and magazines at the weekend.

And as someone who has collected this type of token in the past, it's completely unknown to me. Certainly never seen her backed with the royal CoA before.

For a really expert opinion, I'd recommend that you try here: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=7 Contributors to that forum have literally written the book on these coins. The man you need to ask is called swamperbob

£610? You're having a Turkish (bath) Guv!

I've not seen that version of the Uxbridge School before, very nice.

I used to think that these were very rare, but I've probably handled around 7-8 over the last four years, so maybe just scarce. I'd say that the price is fair.

No, honestly they get puffed up like that during the monsoon. It's just that some of them don't flatten out afterwards. Ever so rare.

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Not exactly a resolution, more the fact that I have to shed around 20 kilos, I will leave the demon drink alone until I can touch my toes. There again, it's 7 AM on New Years Day and I 'm touching my toes. Only because I'm mainly lain on the floor in an irregular Z shape, fighting off my mighty chihuahua.Fortunately my toes are near my hands, otherwise this would have been a wasted exercise. And the demon drink is on a hiding to nothing as I'm just about to finish the last bottle of port. Happy New Year Chaps. (To be honest, I'm really impressed with myself for typing so coherently, when I can't even stand up)

It does look very much like a Nuremberg jetton, but of superior quality. I'm unable to read any of the lettering clearly, but if it were Italian, then you are looking at Venice. Krauwinkel was producing this type of design as early as late C13th. This looks to be much later and so, almost certainly Nuremberg.

Are you certain that it is a fleur de lys cross and not crossed keys? Any idea of the metal, because I think it might be an early sack seal, which would be lead.

Also John, you would enjoy talking with forum member seuk whose interest in fakes mirrors yours.

Yes, U.S. dies and hubs, suitably defaced are, are often seen for sale.

Bronze A1 Leopold is currently around £14.00

Your A1 was issued in both silver and bronze. Which do you have?

"Trouble is, they're mostly Brentford so deeply unfashionable" Yes, but even this QPR supporter will say one good thing for the Bees. There's a pub at each corner of the ground.

Not legal tender, but widely seen in circulation in British cities with large Irish populations. For some time the UK pound traded higher than the Irish Punt so Irish shops and pubs were happy to accept them at face value. I traveled a lot to Dublin on business and my pub of choice would let me run up a tab so that I generated a sum large enough to apply the exchange rate to.

"I did not know that, made legally by who? " Most were made in Birmingham, but I believe that the Royal Mint were also involved.

Believe it or not Gaz, you have a collectable there. I'm not into all the intricacies but many of these early fakes were produced legally in the UK using silver cladding and later electroplate.

Haymarking? A new one for me. Care to expand on that please Rob.

From memory I'm sure that there is a Dublin halfpenny token with Shakespeare's head obverse and Irish harp reverse, and this could be it.

"Interesting, so in other words are you saying CCF as a US forum has more "pull" with eBay? " Probably. They have nearly 50,000 members, the majority of whom are American. " How do we go about reporting it to CCF is there a thread we need to post to specifically." Yes, and it can be complicated the first time you use it. https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=162 Looking back, I've reported 42 items. 29 were taken down. "Ebay should have a UK coin expert online watching the listings. It would not take much for them to spot the fakes and cut them off at source. " They used to have a fakes and counterfeits committee. Bob Gurney aka Swamperbob from CCF was one of the members. Ebay disbanded it. Probably for being too effective.

I've frequently had fakes pulled from ebay.uk by reporting them to CCF.

I've mentioned this before, but CCF (Coincommunityforum) have a very good track record of getting fakes taken down. See: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=162 I'm not sure why they are so successful, probably because of their very high membership and the fact that they are U.S. based.

Has anyone checked the TPG register? That reverse looks very moody to me.