400 for a penny, i suggest you gently massage your prostate, i'm not fishing, i'm a genuine collector, but also a novice, obviously according to you, no one can ask a genuine question without getting hammered. I was asking the question because there is around 50 coins i'd love to buy, but only 1 or 2 i could afford, being unemployed doesn't help the average collector, also my apologies for joining so late, i will in future remember to join when am told to so as not to be ridiculed or frowned upon by synics like you.