Peckris

Our friend 1887jubilee might help you out with a picture :-)

That's unlucky scott. They are extremely common even though only a fraction of the even-commoner 1967. I have some in UNC with lots of lustre (I got a whole tub of them in a Lockdales auction lot, there's still a small number left).

So THAT's what happened to the unsold ACCURATE GRADING GUIDES, only 6/- plus p&p from the Exchange & Mart, late 60s...

No, I'm not that old , but I DO remember the restrictions on modern gold coins in the late 60s (I can't remember the cutoff date but I'm pretty sure it was way back in the 19th Century). Basically, you couldn't buy more than ?4 sovs without a special licence.

I notice the pictures of that bun penny were supplied by www.mintstate.co.uk Ah, the Chas milled coinage. That's the kind of hammered that I like I think the topic moved on to the best coin Peck, regardless of hammered or milled. Do try and keep up my old bean I'm wishing I had even the faintest idea what you're talking about Dave. Could it be you misunderstood my little joke? I think you must have

Nice bog head! Wonder whether cargo was bullion or coin Rumour has it the cargo was 1903 & 05 Halfcrowns...that would worry a couple of Chinese manufacturers. Interesting that the announcement of this find, which totals some 200 tons of silver, almost immediately depressed the bullion price for silver by about 20%. The price went from around £25 per troy ounce to £20 almost in an instant. 200 tons? it must have sunk fast. It states it was sunk in 1941 so it might not be .925 silver, it could be that its .500.........Still holding over half a Kilo of .925 myself, just waiting for the right time. anyone with a crystal ball? No time like the present - you don't think it's going higher? "The only way is Down..."

Gosh, yes. I'd pay to slab a valuble coin too ... Well, if he didn't know before, now he can have every confidence that he's got a genuine, Fine 15 example of a 1917 penny Just imagine if you had spent 6p on a 1917 circulated penny only to realise it wasn't real

Ah, the Chas milled coinage. That's the kind of hammered that I like

Yes, an example of any penny dated in the 1950s is worth getting. Good luck with the 1950 quest. Welcome to the forums Scots You're right about the 1887 shilling and sixpence - those two are probably the two most common silver coins in high grade prior to 1936. But hey, still a nice way to own some good quality Vic silver.

Gosh, yes. I'd pay to slab a valuble coin too ... Well, if he didn't know before, now he can have every confidence that he's got a genuine, Fine 15 example of a 1917 penny

The word "muppet" comes to mind for some unfathomable reason

OMG if that appeared on Doctor Who?, I'd be the first hiding behind the sofa!

My 1926ME penny in GF - given me by a bus conductor (remember them??) as a schoolboy, when I hadn't got ANY 1926s! Mind you, it was nearly a year before I realised it WAS the ME. Now I could spot one instantly - any ME in fact. I still have the penny, wouldn't sell it at any price A close second would be my near UNC Cartwheel twopence, bought from Peter Viola marked down from £140 to £100. Mind you, that was in the 1990s.

Why not keep it as a curio? I used to keep all kinds of things like that when I was poring over bags of coins from the banks before decimalisation!

Nb the 1922 (type 1927) reverse appears to have a shorter index finger too (from the 3 coins i can find illustrated) David The significantly longer teeth are the main giveaway. (Which makes Britannia seem even smaller, though actually she IS a wee bit smaller).

It COULD be a misstrike, or else it's been machined after it left the Mint. We'd need to see a picture - the maximum size per post is 150k, you may need to compress or reduce the size to get it to post. Failing that you could upload to Flickr or Photobucket and link to it here.

Thanks Rob and Tom for your very full replies - it's a real deep sea of a topic! I wish I could afford pieces where provenance was even an issue. As for the highest amount spent, all I'm saying is that I have a few coins that if I was buying now, would set me back several hundreds. However Dave's €1500 beats me hands down!

GBS+ surely ?

I know you're right. But I think it's important to distinguish between prestige and provenance. A coin from a prestigious sale such as Norweb or Bamford will carry a premium just for that alone, and the better the coin is, and the longer it can be linked to those sales, the better for its future. But, such sales also carry a proportion of relatively mediocre coins - break the link and suddenly those are cast adrift. However provenance is generally irrelevant to mediocre stuff, and I believe that Rob is interested in tracing back the history of important pieces? For example, how much do we know about the previous life of coins in Norweb and Bamford etc? This is an area I know nothing about, so maybe Rob could enlighten us - is there already provenance for the best coins in important sales, or not, or only some? Does the existence of provenance even for those sales add much to the value-added premium? I'd love to know.

amazing.......ski And it's been CLEANED!!! Didn't find a buyer even at 89 cents

ROFL. What makes you think we all can even FILL our ISA allowance, or that there is anything left worth writing home about once we have!

My thoughts exactly. As for 'several hundreds', I think that would only apply to rare or particularly good examples. I can think of any number of coins priced in hundreds where provenance would make little impression. However, where it is 'thousands' that is a different matter. I've never spent four figures on a coin, and I'm not sure even if my most valuable specimen would get there. The number of collectors spending those kind of sums must be pretty small, and I would expect many of them to know each other anyway.

So what's half of death? The calibre of attendees at the Labour party conference....or maybe I'm too generous. Quite lively by the look of what I've seen so far. For FULL death just wait a few days until the Tories get going.

Typical Daily Telegraph article of the 'things are never as good as they used to be' ilk. I would however tend to agree about the quality of design, but why he picks the humdrum 1902-27 halfcrown is beyond me. And as for retaining the old l.s.d. system? Do me a favour. Bit Colonel Blimpish, that article. I do love the Ed VII halfcrown reverse, especially seen in mint state. But ahead of the standing Britannia florin reverse? No way! As for working out how many twopenny-halfpenny bars can be bought for £5 4s 10d - pffft. I for one am glad we went to the decimal system.

yup youre right .....ive seen some of those £2 polo mint coins on ebay, you take the middle out and claim its rare Polo? Strong royal connection there!