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Most of us would have to re-mortgage our houses to raise the kind of cash needed. I wonder if it originally went to a foreign buyer, and whether it will again. Same with the 1933 penny sold by Heritage in 2016.

Received my copy today. Very useful, well laid out and informative. Two observations:- 1/ Is it possible that the designer actually did intend the face to be that of a lion, rather than Medusa or Athena, but so comprehensively ballsed it up that the design was never used in 1841, and only accidentally used for a very short run in 1847? 2/ In the list of names at the back, Jack of Coopers Coins, is actually (I believe) Jack Relph, not Jack Cooper. I have his business card in front of me confirming that.

Thanks Chris.

Thanks, very interesting.

Me too. It's the same coin which sold at the Spink Waterbird collection in September 2019 for £111k. Also, I think the seller may be @The Coinery (Guy) who used to post here. If it is, he sold me a very nice GEF with lustre F79 for £250 in 2017. Not to be confused with "Coinery" (Stuart)

Click here Price on application, apparently. I haven't asked. Any thoughts on what the price might be?

This microchip business is utter tripe. I can't believe that anybody could so stupid as to lend it the remotest credence. Microchips are implanted with specific info contained therein, that can be read with a scanner - as with a cat - they're implanted just under the skin in the same place where they can easily be read. Also the size of them means they couldn't get into a hypodermic syringe in the the first place, let alone get out of it. If anybody did create a chip that could be activated remotely, or routinely transmit information, they'd make a fortune from cat owners.

Ah, that reminds me. Another band for the covid era - "Tiers for fears".

So anyway, there I was scrolling casually through a search on e bay for copies of "Coin Monthly" that I don't yet have, when lo and behold, four complete years for the 1980's appear - 1981, 1983, 1985 & 1986. Placed orders for all four, and also 10 from January to October 1979. Although I've already got one or two random months for some of those years. It might be a question of gradually filling in gaps, as apart from the odd random issues, you really don't normally see many from the 1980's - and I've yet to see any at all from those last days in the early 90's. Saw another couple of randoms, this time from June 1987 and September 1989, I think it was. But that involved buying other back copies from 1983, which I've just ordered. Might have to start going down that road, however. It also looks as though they were also doing fortnightly (or even weekly) versions for a time in the late 70's and early 80's. Not sure if they were in addition to, or a replacement for the usual monthly editions.

Or knowing where they were if there was any you were interested in. If someone was really stuck for getting access, or wanted a given article urgently (unlikely, but possible) I'd send them pics. But my photos are not brilliant.

They were living in the age of circulating pennies, and these figures represent absolute reality at the time. There's no way such a feel could be reproduced now, post decimalisation and post melt, over 50 years on. That's why these surveys, however rudimentary some of them were, are so historically valuable IMO. Actually there's nothing wrong with rudimentary - it's tabular. straightforward and very easy to understand the meaning in a few seconds, which is what you want. I wish more stuff was like that these days. Yes, he's obviously got the estimates for 1919 & 1919H the wrong way round. Also, as you say, quite why he would have nil as the estimates for 1922 and 1926 is a bit odd. What he actually found was (I reckon) pretty much in line with the sort of figures out of 10k, you might have expected for those years. Possibly even a tad under.

Just an index Chris.

I've spent the last couple of days reading through and date/page listing every article relating to pennies in the Coin Monthly magazines from November 1966 to December 1977, including author's name and article title. I've also included a reference to some relevant reader letters. There are many ! Although there was somewhat of a famine in 1974 & 1975. Any rate, although I've compiled this for my own reference, if anybody would like a copy, feel free to PM me with your e mail address and I'll happily forward it on. It's way too big to try and reproduce here. More years from 1978 onwards as and when I get complete years.

It was a 10,000 penny survey. Quite interesting, but there were a number of such surveys done around that time. ETA: truncated pic after photoscaping to reduce size.

Slowly working my way through, Mick, and I have come across a small article on brass threepence and 20th century 6d varieties in the February 1971 edition. It's not much of an article to be honest, consisting just of a tabular list. But you're welcome to a photo - let me know if you're interested.

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Ah well, so far I only have up to the end of 1977. Editions after that, especially in the 1980's are much harder to come by. But I will be starting on them in the new year. I wanted to compete the first phase before that though. If I see any other articles about threepences and sixpences in the early editions, I'll make a note of then for you, Mick. In the meantime @DaveG38 has every copy from the start in November 1966, right up to the finish in February 1992. He might be able to help you with August 1981.

Thanks. At the moment I've got each year in a rubber band, which I keep in a cardboard box in my spare bedroom. I must get some shelves fitted in there at some point. One thing I will do, and wish I'd done when I first read them, is to go through each one and make a note of the interesting articles I've seen, which month and year etc, so I can just put my hand on them when required..

Detect alone and keep quiet about what you find, assuming you want to hold onto it. After all, by definition, it's not as if it will ever have been reported missing, or be identifiable with any legit owner. Not a living one any rate. Nor would anyone have the remotest clue where you dug it up if you chose not to tell them. You could say your back garden and it couldn't be disproved. Not that I'm suggesting the law should be broken, just pointing out how easy it would be if you work alone and simply keep the find.

I'd guess massively more.

Yes that was very interesting, thanks. Amazing what occasionally turns up, and a really neat find for the family concerned. On another note:- Sounds as though many were roaming the countryside at that time, for more than just exercise.

I don't know Ian. I made the order just before I posted. So when I say I've got it, what I really meant was that I've bagged it, but not yet received it. I'll report back when I do.