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How does such a horrible scratch appear on BOTH sides? Don't know. It does look pretty awful doesn't it, but beggars can't be choosers with such rarities, and it sold for £2100

That is so obviously a normal 1862 penny. They're either incredibly inept or crooked. For reference an 1862 penny with ½ penny numerals, looks like this

A very odd festive season this year, my wife who has been in hospital over Xmas came home today Then this evening, i get news that my brother has just been admitted to hospital So sitting on my tod waiting for New Year - large Scotch at the ready! Happy New Year All David Hope everything is OK, David & Happy New Year again to you. My girl friend has rheumatoid arthritis, which sadly she developed 2 years ago, at the exceptionally early age of 31. So she isn't really fit enough for a night on the town. But it's not my scene and never has been. I've always preferred to stop in and watch the telly at New Year. The only time I did go out, we had to pay to get in the bloody pub, and it was one of those with a log fire, which I found myself backed onto and pretty much unable to move, spending hours trying to keep my arse from frying !!!

Freeman gives virtually all the G5 & G6 proofs as R18 and all the E2s (bar 1953) as R19, which is patently wrong. As always, it is a case of guesstimating rarities because readers demand a number. Spadework is required to establish the relative rarities and numbers for each year. So where is your more accurate source ?

Freeman lists proof bronze pennies and halfpennies for 1939 at R18 ~ 6 to 15 estimated to be in existence.

5.10.15 6.12.18 2.2.22 22.22h (if you leave out leading zeros) 4.8.16 (number doubling)

Very, very nice. If that was a present, you certainly got your money's worth.

Hope so, Bob

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to youi ski, and indeed, to all on here. Have a great time

I recently came across a yellow 1864 penny. Unusual as all the other ones I've seen have been black:-

I am want to see your e mail, Tom

You're good. The crusader crtyptic in the Express is about my limit

ha ha ha

I'll send an email to Heritage later, I'm sure I read somewhere that they'll get raw coins slabbed for their auctions, could be wrong? The coin would be going just one way, then, with just one lot of post, and no import taxes! This is what the experiment's all about, I guess, finding these things out by hard-won experience! I'm going to send a couple of trial hammereds to them, so I need to 'mail them anyway! Let us know what they say, Stuart.

Our initial rush of enthusiasm meets reality. Never mind. I've got an 1888 MS65 slabbed bun penny, but unfortunately, I don't live anywhere near the agents.

Could always make it a £120 stake, I'll cover 1949 until the new year, if that's agreeable? Sounds good to me.

Count me in on this, Peter (or for another coin, you guys) ~ but I'm going to have to be £50 max as I'm virtually skint until new year having spent £775 on 3 new coins in the last month alone. ....and what with Christmas an all..... edit: could drop in £100 as soon as we reach new year and I get paid. Let me know.

Still with that weak strike on the hair though... Yeah, but you have to admit, looks orders of magnitude better than the Heritage specimen

Judging by the V and C being adjacent keys, could you have meant "corroded" Dave? (Heaven only knows what the predictive text thought it was coming up with ) Certainly that obverse is heavily pitted. "Vorredend" is a German word, Peck. It means something like inventing a story to cover something that has happened.

Incidentally, scroll down to 1835 on this list Colin Cooke is selling a gem 1835 shilling for £375 ~ actually £337.50 until tomorrow, with the 10% Christmas discount applied. No mottling or stains on that coin. Absolutely the real deal. Wonder what MS grade that would get ? edit: I don't think it's been dipped.

Hmmm.....it's what it will sell for in the States once slabbed and with a high MS number attached to it, that seemingly counts the most, Peter. Obviously slabbed coins here, do not carry anything like the cache they do in the US. So whilst we remain unimpressed by slabs, they are highly sought after over the pond. A precursor of much higher prices across the board possibly ? I don't know. But it makes some of the coins we've obtained here, look quite low priced for what they are, to be honest. Slabbing rejections for various faults, notwithstanding.

Sorry, tell a lie. It is MS67 after all ~ was looking at the wrong bit. The right one is here Extraordinary. And it's sitting at $625 thats 385 GBP crazy coin world I'd have said £300 absolute tops, and even that would be generous given its appearance!!!

Sorry, tell a lie. It is MS67 after all ~ was looking at the wrong bit. The right one is here Extraordinary.

Anyway, I've found it on Heritage's website ~ here ........and it's MS64, not MS67. Still overgraded I reckon.

They also take into account "eye appeal", which makes Nick's sixpence an epic fail for MS67 Lmfao..........Eye appeal to earn a point or 4 woohoooooooo, no wonder the americans use petrol to enhance their coins then It's actually no more than a not very good looking NEF. That's the reality. If it's really been graded MS67, then something is not quite right IMO.