Rob

What would you do with the money if you sold all your coins? Put it in the bank and lose a guaranteed 1 or 2% a year? There are several people on here who say they have never sold a coin from their collection. It's the tracking down, acquiring and completing goals that drives collectors. Although money is a concern for all bar a handful of people, most seem to buy with a view to building a collection and as a consequence do not insist on everything costing 99p which can then be sold for a fiver. i.e. there is a fair amount of leeway in the price they will pay, and any profits are secondary.

I need a P1237 or P1238 too, but that one doesn't make it with the deposits seen. Many a coin has been ruined by lacquering and subsequent attempts at removal.

He's been doing it a long time, and unlike most people hasn't aimed to turn things round quickly for a profit. He's a collector first and foremost, with good taste.

They are all like this. The BM's has a crack as a bonus.

I know

I've just acquired this for someone. There are 3 others in private hands somewhere, so if anyone is hiding one, please PM me. I want one. Actually, I need one for the initial mark.

I don't think the use of the word patinated is anything to worry about, but the bottom one looks as if it was previously lacquered and someone has tried to dissolve it away.

Don't need one. Wouldn't touch it with a bargepole means you don't need a bargepole to not do the thing you have decided not to do.

Carry on using it until it either disintegrated or became obsolete.

I don't know for certain but would think not as you have a piece of machinery involved now which has to locate in the top and bottom of the fly-press. You see quite a lot of underlying detail on some hammered coins, but rarely see anything which could be rationalised to a previous die on the milled. Recut or overstruck corrrections to letters are common, but they usually involve the preceding or following letter in the legend, suggesting a misprunt.

There are at least two varieties of the large 0, one of which is over an undersized 0.

Generally speaking they have to be spectacular clips to be desirable as minor clipping occurs too frequently.

Novelty value only I'm afraid. A slight premium to 10p, but not a lot.

I can only see the V. I'd go for badly aligned on the first clout with the hammer, then the position corrected on subsequent blows. Whilst I don't have any examples with a corrected positiion, I have lots with hopelessly misaligned letters, overstruck letter errors or just spelling mistakes on completed dies, as the literacy and skills of the engraver were clearly lacking in many instances.

I can't see the displaced S on my screen, but that might be a contrast issue. If in line with the other legend characters, then it is most likely a double strike IMO. I can't see any way in which it can be related to the holes in the head. Maybe they are due to 18th century hammer damage? It looks too smooth to be a flan lamination problem.

It's worth the silver content. It can't be uncirculated by definition and has most likely been polished plus there should be some damage from mounting, so numismatic value is zero or thereabouts. It is not a rare date.

Your doctor needs to check your prescription. What are you on?

I concur. Collectors will in general only have a couple of examples at most and dealers are unlikely to have a full spread of grades. You could ask someone like Micchael Gouby as he may have sufficient stocks to cover all grades, but don't bank on it. Dealers will not be falling over each other to accumulate low grade material, as for many 20th century pieces, demand for anything other than ef or unc coins is limited to say the least.

Placed carefully in camera bag.

I have been spared an ordeal (maybe). The Churchill rev. design is by Mark Richards, an example of whose handiwork I already have. The down-side is that the other pieces he has designed are the Kate and Will £5 and the Philip 90th birthday £5. I opted for the latter. I also note that the specification given for the £5 in the 2 coin set is BU. There is no attempt to assign a quality label to the 1965 crown which accompanies it.

Mooo. Sorry, forgot. HB Paul

The other copies and this are certainly related. Weaknesses in the legend and inner circles match. Given the surfaces, I struggle to believe it isn't dodgy, and even if genuine, how come this one doesn't get a damaged field designation given the state of them. The reverse looks like no-mans land on day 1 of the Somme.

Did'nt you know that CGS dictated prices? Lol the 1860 1* halfpenny i recently bought they have one slabbed at 80 something amd reckon it's worth £750 I was more questioning of the slab contents

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Superb-Henry-VIII-Silver-Groat-CGS-45-/321562828047?pt=UK_Coins_BritishHammered_RL&hash=item4adea35d0f

I'm ambivalent about the toppings. I just eat what's available. Put me down for a half on each side.