Sylvester

I have a feeling i used the quill for that one... it's hard when you're left handed but all the other pens had died.

ah unfortunate!

well that's all very well and good but alot of that is wrong... Brass threepences were still in circulation in 1971. Sixpences were still in circulation as late as 1980. Shillings were still in circulation theoretically in 1990. Florins were still in circulation in 1993, i know that full well cos i remember spending them right up to the end, i even spent a George V florin in the early 90s, so i know. Halfcrowns were demonetised in 1969. Crowns to my knowledge have not been demonetised, neither have double florins. Infact double florins were deemed legal tender for 20p upon decimalisation and still are. Half sovereigns, Sovereign, £2 and £5 coins (the gold ones with St George) are still legal tender for, 50p, £1, £2 and £5 respectively, and you are well within your rights to spend one as such if you so wished.

but for different reasons than you state.

if that's the case does 1968 count as another threshold? Or 1971? Or even 1985? and why not 1998, or 2000? I think you'll find the thresholds are actually 1663 and 1816.

he means, if you look down the drown column it says 1/4 for both sovereign and half soverign, it should be 1/2 for half sovereign.

Your just too clever Scott, you know that.

ME's would be George V no? But trident vareties could be Victoria

too right it is!

i mentioned plumes earlier...

if to copper prices goes up too high what it would mean is that the old ones would be worth more intrinsically than their face value, which means you could make a profit from selling them to scrap merchants. Quite alot of collectors on the US/Canada border are hording Canadian Cents with the same intention. With regards to the bronze coins it's either collectors hording them, or the mint is removing them. How many collectors would hoard battered coins that were minted in the millions? (or billions?) I did it for the simple end in mind of seeing how common they are. When i've done i'll probably dump aload of them back into circulation. But i'd hang onto the 1976 twopences and the 1982 pennies, both are scarcer than catalogues suggest. My i've even got more 1992 'scarce' die variety ten pences than 1976 two pences, same goes for 1988 £1 coins.

not seen Mary Poppins? or Diagnosis Murder? anyway my word is... 'The Duke of Edinburgh'

Dick-Van-Dyke

can't be bothered... i still haven't updated the time either, since the clocks changed.

i know my feelings entirely, i thought they were getting scarcer that's why i started this hoarding to see. Now comparing how many 2002 and 2003 pennies and 2p's i pulled out in just a few months there was a major difference, the newer ones are much more common. My theory is, firstly the copper prices have been going up lately (they have), secondly the 2003 mintage of the low denominations was phenominal, i haven't got any mintage figures yet, but i can say i've never seen so many. My hunch is someone somewhere is removing the older coins as intrinsically they are worth more, it doesn't just go for the machin's either, it also counts for Maklouf's upto 1991... the bronze ones are getting thinner on the ground than the steel ones. I think the machins will be the first to go because they are much more obvious than the Maklouf's, as the latter you'd have to check the date of them.

i dunno how to do all this html business so i'm not going to bother. The signatures used to work if i recall correctly.

For the past three years i've been hoarding every machin head 2p and penny that i came across in circulation. (except those that are really mangled, or really really bad), as estimations go i must have rejected at least 100 2ps and 100 1ps. All the rest i kept. Now here's the startling results of this ongoing experiment... date/number recovered 1p's 1971 = 67 1973 = 16 1974 = 18 1975 = 12 1976 = 11 1977 = 16 1978 = 20 1979 = 39 1980 = 19 1981 = 20 1982 = 7 1983 = 16 1984 = 25 2p's 1971 = 179 (any surprise?) 1975 = 29 1976 = 4 (and all of them are in horrible condition) 1977 = 18 1978 = 24 1979 =34 1980 =50 1981 = 43 Anyone else shocked by how few there are there, i mean that's not alot in three years is it? The two pences are also more common.

not my area i'm afraid, i know several minor varities exist, but CoinCraft makes no mention of what they are. So wait till Oli arrives, he's the farthing guy.

well i never actually knew that! I've just been and picked up my battered 1806 Halfpenny and it has K on the trunction. Tr = trunction, bascially the base of the neck or bust, depending on the coin you've got. A Jubilee head one would be a bust, likewise for a George II one (unless it was gold), but a Victoria Young head would be neck. Follow?

air-mail

I think this is a nice time to drop this in... My cat was called Jiffy, but since the renaming of the cleaning product i've been calling him Ciffy. (I know me cruel) And i think you did the best by your coin, i don't think cleaning does much harm to those that have been dug up, or ones that are in low grade already. It's just when people clean nicely toned UNC and BU coins that's when i do my nut.

money-spinner

i'm not too far behind.

Bismark

The really high grades aren't a problem, neither are the really low grades, it's anything between GF and AEF i struggle with.