That's what I mean - if you look. Not many of us get these dealer lists through the post. dealer lists, i get three (in theory although one guy hasn't sent one for a while but i know where his website is), that and i also buy from a few other sites, as well as a coin shop, plus i can look in other coin catalogues, before i even bother with ebay. I prefer dealer lists, they let me browse whenever i want, even when i can't get on the internet, i tend to buy more from list sending dealers. But you can't beat a coin shop, there's nothing quite like seeing the coin in hand as you hand the money over, but this is usually how i end up spending more than i ought! So i should be able to look at about 8 different sources. And i suppose i really should do sixpences, i mean although these modern ones are completely out of my area of expertise, (especially the young head Victorian ones), but i'm sure i'll give it a go. But i can't do florins and sixpences, so someone else will have to do florins, and doubles. Because sixpences are such a long series. What date zone do you want me to concentrate on first? 1787-1837, Victorian YH, 1887-1901, 1902-1919, 1920-1936, 1937-1970?