Sylvester

I've met the odd 1823 £2 coin in person in coin shops so i knew it definately wasn't one of those!

A real one looks like this... http://www.pandaamerica.com/upd_images/182...britain2lbs.jpg

Oh i've seen these before. Certainly forgeries, very crude ones too. The portrait is actually nothing like the real ones in any respect. Looks more like a Roman emperor than George IV! No idea what they are made of though. It'd be interesting to know. What i would do is cancel the aution and explain why, your honesty will gain you more credibility. State that you will offer to resell the coin but as a fake. Also explain how you asked for advice on a coin forum hence the cancellation. You'll find people will appreciate your honesty and they'll probably understand. I find if you sell coins clearly marked as fakes in the auction somewhere (contemporary counterfeit) you'd be surprised, if you were to try and pass them off as real though you'd get negged.

Sent.

Have you got a picture? It'd make identification alot easier and quicker.

Farthing list is done and ready for you... Please PM me with you email addy and i'll post you a copy to fill in at your leisure. Please stick Cromwell's on the beginning.

Wordpad (cos my word doesn't work), but it should be fine to open up in either. Microsoft word might leave a few things out of line. Cromwell is definately milled but strangely absent from the Coincraft list. I'm not adding Cromwell onto my lists until the end. So you can probably add it on yourself. I'll start the farthing lists now for you.

Probably just the major varieties. I'll list them out of Coincraft (what's in there is the minimum), if anyone knows of any others that are missing from the listings when Chris has got them into PDF format, we can add them then. Conversely i have the price listing pages myself and i can email you a copy of your relevant areas and just let you fill in the prices. (Cromwell has not been put on yet) The Crowns-Sixpences are now fully listed. It might take you a while to figure out my listings style but hopefully when it's in the acrobat format it'll be clearer. I may do the farthings lists next for you JMD. Note; i don't have any Peck numbers myself so Chris will probably shove those in, or you can yourself. The regular issues/proofs/errors are all mixed in together at the present but they'll be separated out once i've done the listings. That will be a nightmare in itself.

No problem...i quickly did the prices for Charles II farthings upto VF just a while ago... ...are we going to also include a 'coins not intended for circulation' section at the back (like the CCGB2005 book)? ...i take it that peck numbers are involved also? Yes Peck numbers will be involved. I haven't actually drawn up the draft of the copper stuff yet, i've been working my way down from the crowns... believe it or not the shillings were the worst, so many of them. The catalogue, i'm thinking, will be divided into three sections. I) Regular issue circulation pieces II) Proofs (regular proofs and irregular special proofs) III) Errors/oddities. So the coins not intended for circulation (i.e proofs) will be in the middle section. Patterns, counterstamped Spanish stuff and gold coins are excluded at present. Subsequent editions where possible (if they happen, depending on the popularity of this), may expand to cover one or more, but i know very little about the first two areas so it's not a step i'm going to take without caution. I'm currently still working on the sixpence bit, got Anne-Geo. III to do (i manage to get W3 done last night). I may skip to the halfpennies and farthings then so i can supply you with a template to fill in. Meaning Maundy stuff would be done last.

Don't all rush at once then...

they start at 1672 not 1673... I will gladly do the prices for farthings and Halfpennies (Halfpennies unless HPJ wants to)...when does it have to be 'given in'? I'll wait for Jon on the halfpennies. You can by all means do the farthings. I'd like the prices by about March ideally.

Yes, if you like. They should of course have a mention, but without detail if that what you want to do. I'll mention it somewhere then, but not cover it. P.S I posted the package today, it'll be with you tomorrow afternoon sometime.

I think the gold coins book is the next logical step. I'm busy at present, but i'd gladly write the Early milled half of the book. Infact i could probably just write a complete book on early milled gold. Can i ignore the counterstamped Spanish coins Chris? And focus on just 'Regal' issues in the EM book?

I'm about a third of the way through, almost. Crowns-Shillings are fully listed without prices (i never want to see 1787 shillings again). Sixpences are half done at present. Also some intro & some appendices. I'm thinking about the layout of the listings a bit more now that i can see it coming along. I need volunteers to look up the prices of certain denominations; (Approx dates from memory) Crowns-------------------------1662-1751 Halfcrowns---------------------1663-1751 Shillings------------------------1663-1798 Sixpences----------------------1674-1787 Fourpences--------------------1670-1804? Threepences------------------1670-1804? Twopences (Ag only)--------1670-1804? Pennies (Ag only)-------------1670-1804? Halfpennies (Cu & Sn)--------1673-1775 Farthings (Cu & Sn)-----------1673-1775 The Maundy stuff should really finish at the 1786 issue but there's only another 4 dates or so issued after that since coins at this time were struck very irregulary. I might as well add them all for completeness. Any takers on denomination price research, starting now?

I'm already in your field, but i'm concentration on the Stephen-Edward II silver and hammered gold thence after. I'm going to go back to Eadgar.

Yes but JMD in my area all the good coins that i need would be slabbed. How many AEF early milled sixpences would stay raw? And i thought you'd said you hated hammered coins? You change your stories so much i'm having trouble keeping up.

If slabbing comes in, in the UK, i'm dumping my milled collecting aims and going 100% hammered to avoid it.

I ain't read those yet, but i don't think it's sad, i think it's cultured!

I just knew it. I'm reading Going Postal right now... it's pretty alright. But i wish he'd write another witches book.

That signature of yours is not unlike something Terry Pratchett would come out with!

I rarely look, i had forgot mine was out until a few days ago. Who cares though? They all said i'd get confused, but nope i didn't. I just look for the blue lights.

I never figured out how to do it last time, it seemed a bit complex, but there's a good side to that, it means i don't have to change them now, cos the clock is right again!

Decent coin, but the obverse toning is too much for me and not grey. So i'd give it a miss myself.

Firstly i wouldn't know where to start with the problems that coin has... What a huge gauge (sp?), dint etc. Scratches, pretty mediocre specimen and has that been cleaned? Doesn't look right to me... kinda grainy.

I do not buy 'quality' coins on Ebay, there is too much junk out there. I've had proper dealers sell me cleaned coins though in the past... at the correct prices with a photo but have not mentionned anything about it.