Coys55

Ah. 🤡

I can’t comment on the actual coin, but maybe this could be moved to a more appropriate place than the publications forum?

The hand on the left appears to have six fingers. And presumably a hidden thumb.

The o between S and R is an annulet, which I believe makes it an Edward III third or Florin coinage penny of 1344-51. Not really my area of expertise though so I can't be more specific.

It's not class 5; the portrait looks more like class 7 to me. I'm pretty sure that the reverse legend is IOAN ON CAN.T so it couldn't be class 5 anyway. Slevin's Short Cross Legends has a 7b2 with that exact reverse legend, but the A in CANT looks more like 7a (pointed) than 7b (vertical sides) than that example. Bizarrely placed reverse pellet stops are very common in classes 7a3 and 7b, so without a better ID of the portrait I can't be sure on the class, but the portrait looks more like a 7b to me, so it may be a 7b1/7a3 mule. Oh and Henry III, not John. Anyone else fancy a go?

It does look a bit odd now you mention it. The lines under the eyes and BM don't look quite right either. Here's the link: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/267686864594?_trksid=p4375194.c102726.m162918 Does seem a strange one to copy though.

Isn't it a case of "that's neither superb nor a proof" rather than a repro?

Post-1752 Maundy coins were never intended for circulation so they are usually in good condition.

Can you crop the original photo to the area of interest and then compress the smaller area to 500kb if necessary? The freeware irfanview will do the job very well.

Ah, sorry. I don't think it's a 5 either TBH.

I'm not entirely sure what you are seeing, but it's not an H if that's what think it is. Or the face of Jesus either.

Isn't it a brockage?

Comparing it to my pair of 1844 crowns I'd say that's the top part of a cinqfoil. The star is larger and goes almost to trhe top of the N and I whereas the cinqfoil is smaller and goes about halfway up the letters.

Is the stop after TUTAMEN any clearer?

It was probably part of an early attempt at decimalisation, with the florin (1/10 of a pound) being introduced in 1849. The intention may have been to replace the crown with the DF, but it didn’t quite work out.

If that was my question I would have given that answer a haha, but I guess not everyone shares my sense of humour.

Congratulations on finding a good one! Even if it was accidental.

I’m afraid not, but I’m really not an expert on these penny varieties. I am interested though and will go through my own old collection of bun head pennies at some time just in case.

Thanks for posting the image. I agree that there’s nothing there, but see where you thought it a was.

If you wanted to be really fussy a full set would include the 1887 Arabic 1 and Roman 1 variants and the 1888 and 1889 Inverted 1 (or is it a die-filled normal I serif or broken punch?) for second I in Victoria variants. All three variants are listed in Spink so I think it's reasonable to include those in the set. I did anyway...

There are a lot of fakes around so I wouldn't touch a wreath crown on eBay these days. Prices at auction are generally lower anyway, even allowing for the add-ons and postage. The last two I bought were a 1928 and a 1931 from lockdales in 2021.

Several of the his claimed discoveries (e.g. the 1875H and VIGTORIA pennies) have turned out to be not what he thought, so maybe it's just newbie enthusiasm.

Yes it is. A search threw up three others sold by London Coins in 2019/2019 (both auction #167) and 2017 (aution #156), all in significantly worse condition but with clear G.

Here's a definite Vigtoria. I don't think your G looks the same, even allowing for the condition. Compare it to the two Gs in D.G. and REG on "your" coin and I think it's pretty clear. Personally I think the seller saved you £6.

Looks more like a 10cf to me. Definitely London.