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yes I have also enjoyed it . Whatever a persons inclination on these difficult issues there is never a need for animosity or derision. I think the BBC have to do some soul searching and as various reporters said yesterday on the Media Show the issues around impartiality have become weaponized which is a shame. Perhaps we are just more aware of the issues and have woken up to a world full of potential hazards from the endless stream of true and false information and the battle for supremacy over social media. I find I personally prefer analysis rather than impartiality and this approach is somewhat exhausting. I just think that the expression of thought provoking point of view, whether I agree with it or not, tends to insist on making me work harder to understand something.

Yes I am sure you are right. Coming from two of the categories of difference it is often the case that I feel safer (yet often irritated) by those from one or both those communities. Seeking out similarity is an easy option but isn't one that I personally prefer. It is like reading an enlightening book when invited into a culture or "tribe" I am unaccustomed to it is refreshing. Of course it is mostly as a guest in these new spaces. It took me 10 years to be part of township life in South Africa but I am glad of it. and likely feel an ease there more than my own I personally find that my own white british lower economic culture the most difficult either to understand or integrate in , as such one lives a life of "fish out of water". Disability reduces an ability to put in practice decades of education and would migrate to my home in the South but there are economic reasons why that cannot be achieved. Humans are "unusual" creatures for me it is unlikely I will ever fully understand them.

Oh 100% absolutely. Gay people, gypsies, the mentally disabled etc. Some of them were early casualties. Anyway, I reckon this is a topic we're never going to get true consensus on, but thanks gents for a reasonable, interesting and civilized debate.

It's possible that desperate citizens of the world can see through the anti-migrant rhetoric of the Tories, and know that the vast majority of UK people - whichever party they vote for - are decent and compassionate as has been demonstrated so often e.g. towards Ukrainians (but there are very many examples).

Skilled though Rosen is, I still don't think there is any realistic comparison between UK 2023 and Germany in the 1930's, and that such comparisons are extremely unfair. Just to show, this is a picture showing the flight of Jewish people from Germany between 1933 and 1939. The polar opposite to this country, where the argument is about the desperation to get in.

What a fascinating thread. I'm just going to pop this here. Written by the writer Michael Rosen. Which I found interesting.