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The problem is the banks no longer take them for exchange, so if impaired in any way, their value has actually reduced to the scrap cupro-nickel price. As with many commemoratives, they were hoarded, so there is no point in getting a worn one if you want it in decent grade. If I can get £3 for a really nice one, I'm happy. Most go in the rummage bin, or the big smelter in the sky.
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Technically yes, but nothing out the ordinary. If a die is filled with grease (because they are stored that way before use to stop oxidation), then it won't compress when striking coins leading to weak or missing detail. This happens frequently as they use a lot of dies. If the flan is slightly thinner at one point, then it likely means it has been cut from the edge of a sheet, which depending on the amount of metal left for the last sheet say in the batch, could simply run out of metal to use. The sheets for making flans will be squeezed between 2 rollers to get the right thickness, which eventually must result in insufficient metal to fill the gap. It has curiosity value for many, but is a feature that's regularly seen. Someone might pay you a pound or two for it plus postage. For added zeros, put it on ebay and say the decimal point wasn't struck up. I'm sure someone will fall for it.
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Hi sorry does that mean it’s a mint error
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Hiya - thanks guys. Rare in the sense that they are no longer in circulation and therefore not legal tender. I know many were made at the time though. yeah when I filtered eBay to items that had actually sold, it seems they don’t go for more than £3-£10 unfortunately. oh well….
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Or to put it another way. Face value + (£1/ebay price).
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It will either be the dies blocked with grease, or more likely given the weakness to both sides, a weak strike or a non-uniform/standard thickness flan. Weight?
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If mint 'error' or just worn? I think it's probably been weakly struck with the result that some detail is not properly formed.
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They aren't rare. I have no idea what crazy nonsense is on eBay for them, I suspect it's people asking silly prices, money laundering, the usual rubbish (but not actually genuine sales). We have that one valued at £1 in normal used condition in the Check Your Change app: https://www.checkyourchange.co.uk/the-app/
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Spink 23rd Sept Historical Documents Auction!
Coinery replied to Coinery's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
This could be for you, then? 26066 - Historical Documents, Autographs and Ephemera Pre-bidding begins: 28 August 2026 @ 17:00 Live bidding begins: 23 September 2026 @ 11:00 Lot #: 1016 Title: King Charles I in Oxford 1642 (19 Jan.) letter from Oxford signed at top "Charles R" to Sir Wil... Estimate: £1,500 - £2,000 Description: King Charles I in Oxford 1642 (19 Jan.) letter from Oxford signed at top "Charles R" to Sir William Pennyman reading "We doe hereby give you full power and authority for us and in our name without our county of Northampton, to search for, sieze upon, and take into our custodie all such money, plate, armes, amunicon and horses as you shall receive informacon or find to be remayning in the custody of any person or persons who have contributed any money, plate armes horss or other provision towards the maynteyning the war against us ... that you from tyme to tyme give us an exact account what you have seized, that so owee mai give speedy order for the disposall thereof ... ". An impressive document with dramatic contents illustrating the difficulties in raising funds for the Crown, and the fear that towns would fall to the Parliamentarians. Some usual edgewear otherwise fine. Notes: Pennyman had been a member of parliament for Richmond, Yorkshire, but on the outbreak of war raised a troop of horse and regiment of foot to join the King at Nottingham, fighting at Edgehill. In 1643 he was appointed Governor of Oxford, but died later in that same year. Subject to 20% VAT on Buyer’s Premium. For more information please view Terms and Conditions for Buyers. More information can be found here. https://live.spink.com/lots/view/4-ML0WY8 Download the SpinkLive app for yourself -- available from the iTunes App Store (null) - Yesterday
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Hiya Could anyone give me any info on this rare 1973 50pence hands coin? I have been trying to get a legitimate value on it but am getting very varied results on eBay etc. Any ideas? In decent condition but not sure how to grade it properly? Many thanks 🙏🏻 ☺️
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like wise, I will go off for a look see 👍
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A pound, and better spent than hoarded given its condition. I assume it is genuine and not a copy?
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Plenty, but I don't want to take over the thread and quite a few are shown elsewhere. I have approx 2 dozen in the collection with different reasons for the various errors as made.
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Awesome faults , great to see these 👍 any others ?
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Hi Shelly. Sorry, but no large value. It is a result of a die beginning to break up shortly before it dies. Given enough time, every die would show this feature (or something else related to the wear process) as it is due to a chip breaking off, which leaves a depression in the die surface where it shouldn't be and results in a raised lump. You might get something on ebay for it, but don't plan for a night out on the proceeds! List it for more than the cost of a second class letter stamp plus 5p and you will have a profit, as there is a collector for everything. In numismatic terms it is called a cud. FYI, another die fault arising from their destruction includes cracking prior to complete failure (leaving a raised irregular line or lines). The pictures help to explain what I mean. The second also shows a depression in the reverse field due to the flan having a fault too - usually due to bad metal mixing or a trapped air pocket. Raised will be on the die and recessed (incuse) due to the flan. Faults have many varieties and can make an interesting collection in their own right. If you are interested and want to pursue something along these lines, ask questions and search through past threads. It is fun (honestly). Edited to add that the weakness in REX on the obverse is likely due to the compromised integrity of the reverse die, as the die axis is inverted and so follows the line of the reverse flaw. Weak or missing letters is another error rabbit hole to look into.
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I Nearly scrapped this one for being a ex mount ...on the reverse some rather nice initials have been sympathetically added circa 1887
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Yes, it’s the hair that caught my eye. I’ve looked at a lot since and not seen one like it. But as Rob says, the Berwick coins are a variable non-conforming bunch so why shouldn’t there be the odd errant die? Jerry
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'Normal for Berwick'?
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Just returning to this…I agree with your Berwick classification. Re the portrait, it could be all that extra hair on his forehead, that’s unusual? Otherwise it all looks normal to me, the classic wonky chin, all rather Gollumesque 🙂
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Hi, I would like to find out if my coin has any value at all please. My mother found it and gave it to me as it has a strange mark on the queens chin. It's a 5p coin, with an unusual error. Is it worth anything please.??
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Spink 23rd Sept Historical Documents Auction!
Rob replied to Coinery's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
Buy some! I will only be interested in any that correlate to troop movements which ties in specific issues of coins.