Die errors and die numbers

[TheStalker 0]

i was looking at a site a few people speak about in this forum called www.michael-coins.co.uk

i noticed that he has list of coins hes selling along with info on die errors and the diferent dies used for the coin and that date,and he uses large images so you can see the differences between dies

so i pulled out my coin collection and started to right down what coins had die errors and what obv & rev types they had,i found once i pulled out my mini microscope that i had a few die errors coin and some coins that had rare obv & rev die mix

the problem is i want to look more into this but he only lists the info and images for the coins hes selling,

dose anyone know of any sites or books,sites would be better there free where i can find this info

i know theres one book on penny die's and die errors but its £30 just for that one book

any help would be great

thanx

den

[Bronze & Copper Collector 401]

i was looking at a site a few people speak about in this forum called www.michael-coins.co.uk

i noticed that he has list of coins hes selling along with info on die errors and the diferent dies used for the coin and that date,and he uses large images so you can see the differences between dies

so i pulled out my coin collection and started to right down what coins had die errors and what obv & rev types they had,i found once i pulled out my mini microscope that i had a few die errors coin and some coins that had rare obv & rev die mix

the problem is i want to look more into this but he only lists the info and images for the coins hes selling,

dose anyone know of any sites or books,sites would be better there free where i can find this info

i know theres one book on penny die's and die errors but its £30 just for that one book

any help would be great

thanx

den

Michael Gouby authored an EXCELLENT book which he refers to on his website..... And is deovted to just the BRONZE PENNIES....

Michael Freeman's book, last published in 1985, with a reprint reported to be in the works, is the accepted authority on BRONZE coinage

Peck is the accepted work on Copper, Bronze, and Tin....

There is also the SATIN reference (by John Jerrams), which covers BRONZE PENNIES from 1860-1865

NONE of these as ABSOLUTELY COMPLETE, as there are just too many minor varieties to be catalogued.....

Most of the minor variants have no significant premium, although there ARE several EXTREMELY RARE varieties that do command an EXTREME PREMIUM..... and of course there are those that fall between....

I specialize primarily in BRONZE pennies and half-pennies, although I also collect farthings and the same denominations in Copper also......

Please feel free to contact me, if I can be of any assistance...... PM me and I'll give you my email address, and you can send me any images that you need to....

Best of Luck.....

[TheStalker 0]

thanx for you reply

iv only been collecting for about 1 year,but already thanx to ebay have a very nice coin collection

nothing compared to you guy i should think,

i started buying coins down the boot sales i would keep the nice ones and sell the rest on at a nice proffit,and then spending the money i made on other coins,

i learned so much that now i go round and value other people collections and buy them,

NO I DONT RIP THEM OFF.....WELL WE ALL GOT TO MAKE SOMETHING SOMEWHERE

i learned so much so fast that i now can not stop,british coin collecting has over taken me,

i 28 and my girlfreind thinks im a geek but what the hell,

i new about the different dies but never found anywhere that listed them

iv only just joined the forum but i hope this will become my new home

thanx

TheStalker

[Hussulo 6]

thanx for you reply

iv only been collecting for about 1 year,but already thanx to ebay have a very nice coin collection

nothing compared to you guy i should think,

i started buying coins down the boot sales i would keep the nice ones and sell the rest on at a nice proffit,and then spending the money i made on other coins,

i learned so much that now i go round and value other people collections and buy them,

NO I DONT RIP THEM OFF.....WELL WE ALL GOT TO MAKE SOMETHING SOMEWHERE

i learned so much so fast that i now can not stop,british coin collecting has over taken me,

i 28 and my girlfreind thinks im a geek but what the hell,

i new about the different dies but never found anywhere that listed them

iv only just joined the forum but i hope this will become my new home

thanx

TheStalker

Hi Stalker and welcome!

I'm 27 and my wife and friends think I'm a bit of a geek, but then again I have never been "normal".

[Chris Perkins 223]

I'm 28 and have a little empire built on coins. I don't think people think I'm a geek at all, but I think some of my friends might be a little bit jealous that I have no boss, no 9 to 5 and can go where I want and do what I want as long as I put a few hours in each day...Or not!

[Geordie582 18]

I'm 76. Where does that leave me in "Geek-hood"?

[Chris Perkins 223]

That makes you the Kaiser of all things geeky

I'm 76. Where does that leave me in "Geek-hood"?

[TheStalker 0]

I'm 76. Where does that leave me in "Geek-hood"?

at the age of 76 you must have a collection like no other

where dose that leave you...i should say owning have the royal mint

your collection must be massive you must own at least half the coins ever minted

[Rob 3,002]

I'm 48 and both of me are normal. I think.

Edited October 10, 2006 by Rob

[Chris Perkins 223]

I'm 76. Where does that leave me in "Geek-hood"?

at the age of 76 you must have a collection like no other

where dose that leave you...i should say owning have the royal mint

your collection must be massive you must own at least half the coins ever minted

Collections aren't always about quantity are they. Despite his advanced years he might only have 10 carefully selected coins! Although judging from the gallery, that isn't the case.

[Geordie582 18]

As I sold my first collection to buy my first computer (yes, a Sinclair!), my current collection is a poor reflection. I was posted to Malta in the 60's when they were still circulating Victoria and subsiquent coins. The farmers also did not trust banks, so often paid for purchases in hoarded silver, a lot in EF condition. Paradise! I also had some excellent hammered, bought at very low prices.

Ah! Well! the folly of youth made me want to join the new computer population more than have a good collection. I still yearn for the helmet Canute I sold! I think I paid £5 for it and it was EF.

Edited October 10, 2006 by Geordie582

[Hussulo 6]

I'm 28 and have a little empire built on coins. I don't think people think I'm a geek at all, but I think some of my friends might be a little bit jealous that I have no boss, no 9 to 5 and can go where I want and do what I want as long as I put a few hours in each day...Or not!

Chris envy and jealousy both come into play here! most of us could only dream of a job which was derived from our no1 hobby.

[Bronze & Copper Collector 401]

54 here, collecting since 1960... started with US coins, penny folders.... expanded a bit to some other US series...

about 1970 or so, I started collecting Great Britain..... sold off everything but the copper and bronze.... had a complete shilling and sixpence set, but applied the proceeds to what interested me most.......

collection really expanded in the last 8 years or so, with more time to spend on it and the internet opening the world......

PS: I've NEVER been considered NORMAL..... LOL!!!

Edited October 11, 2006 by Bronze & Copper Collector

[Geordie582 18]

collection really expanded in the last 8 years or so, with more time to spend on it and the internet opening the world......

PS: I've NEVER been considered NORMAL..... LOL!!!

I'm with you, but the keeness to aquire is not backed by the necessary modern coinage!

[Bronze & Copper Collector 401]

collection really expanded in the last 8 years or so, with more time to spend on it and the internet opening the world......

PS: I've NEVER been considered NORMAL..... LOL!!!

I'm with you, but the keeness to aquire is not backed by the necessary modern coinage!

No modern coinage is included...

Farthing collection from 1672-1956

Half Penny Collection from 1672-1970

Penny Collection from 1797-1970

[TheStalker 0]

iv never collected anything past about 1907

of of course i go that far because of the silver coins yet to get any decent 1905 silver

the only other coins past about 1907 i tend to keep are KEY DATES and BUNC

like BUNC pennies, threepence, sixpence

KEY DATES like 1925,1932 florins,1930 half crown,1952 sixpence1946,1949 threepences and so on

i look at my coins as a investment like a retirement fund so never thought it would be worth collecting

anything other then the KEY DATES & BUNC from about 1907 onwards

is this due to my inexperience in coin collecting or am i on the right track

like i said before i am new to this so any help from people of your years and experience

is very wellcome

[Geordie582 18]

[Bronze & Copper Collector 401]

No modern coinage is included...

Farthing collection from 1672-1956

Half Penny Collection from 1672-1970

Penny Collection from 1797-1970

[Sylvester 15]

I'm with Geordie on this! The old stuff rules.

[Bronze & Copper Collector 401]

I'm with Geordie on this! The old stuff rules.

You can never top the old classics......

[Sylvester 15]

Look at Athenian Owl Tetradrachms! Timeless.

[Bronze & Copper Collector 401]

Look at Athenian Owl Tetradrachms! Timeless.

You're holding HISTORY in your hands......

[ken46 0]

I'm 60 and started collecting U.S. pennies in the 1950's. Being from a somewhat backwater

area at that time my opportunity for purchasing anything of quality wasn't very good.

Thru my early adulthood I continued to collect the odd piece as I found them and stayed

intrested in the hobby. Kidding myself that I was actually doing something that would

one day bring me an economic reward.

Then about 30 years ago with gold actually trading in the U.S. I decided to collect

gold coins. Very hastily I found out U. S. gold was way to expensive for me so I looked

for something else and found sovereigns. Fortunately about 20 years ago I met

a dealer who really started to educate me as to how to 'collect". We sold off over

time almost everything I had bought as we slowly made new purchases of much

better grades of coins. I don't know how many times I heard the word "patience".

Though it is mentally rewarding to shoot for a big collection its far better to go for

quality and rareness one piece at a time. I just wish I had known this when I was

young.

Now The Stalker started this discussion by asking about die numbers and various

oddities. Probably the biggest mistake I have made in the coin collecting arena

is trying to collect die numbered sovereigns. Its a black hole that seems to go on

forever. If I had it to do over again I would have just collected nice pieces of

whatever denomination that I came across.

[Sylvester 15]

I'm glad you told me that! I've put 'collecting sovereigns by die number' on the backburner for a few years now. I guess i'll just leave it there, although i did have my doubts as to how good an approach that was.

Although to be honest i got pulled in by hammered before i managed to get back collecting sovereigns and once the hammered bug gets you milled becomes a bit of a bore. So maybe i'm safe? Yeah safe in the realms of the 12th century! That's safe?

[Peter 615]

I've done the date run thing with 1/4ds and then realised I will NEVER achieve a complete collection...ref Peck Colin Cooke etc.

I now tend to lurch into an area and concentrate....and learn.

Recently I've dipped the toe into French silver and hammered,some nice George 11 milled silver and random pieces.

Coin Collecting to me is now more than a fad...I want it to be my pension...although the selling bit is going to prove a heartache.

Hammered gold...now there is something.