Martinminerva

In this day and age, who says it's a she...😏

Yes, I felt that since they were all low grade, I'd bung them all together to save time and fuss. The final buyer might want to pick out the ones they want and sell on the rest, I suppose?!

Should sell ok - there are lots of watchers already, and the better F.69 has had an early bid!

If anyone might be interested, I have just listed on eBay a bunch of ten low grade but much rarer Freeman and Gouby varieties, including a Freeman 1 and Freeman 69 die pair 6+I, and a Gouby BP 1874 Nn, 7 over 7... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-VERY-RARE-Victoria-pennies-rare-Freeman-Gouby-varieties-Fill-those-gaps/284241561730?hash=item422e1e0882:g:iWsAAOSwQstgZeDI ... and as a separate lot, a much better Freeman 69... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1874H-Victoria-BUN-PENNY-Dies-6-I-Freeman-69-Nice-and-excessively-rare-R16/284241565126?hash=item422e1e15c6:g:M8wAAOSwSZ9gZeJb Certainly nothing to write home about, but as gap fillers, they might suit someone! Cheers!

Oh god, that makes me feel even worse now... I hang my head in shame...

And thanks for your understanding too, Jerry. Yes, I have certainly learnt today!

Oh, I must be then. I thought it was you who arranged for my user name to be changed when people were assuming I was a person called Martin Platt. I am not he !!

So sorry again...

Thanks for your understanding, Mike. Indeed, I have seen many, many other heads ups over the years on here that no-one has ever been reprimanded for which is why I didn't give it a second thought. I believe @secret santa might have clearance to remove things? Many years ago he kindly changed my user name for me...

I am most terribly sorry! I did not know that convention. Unfortunately, it won't let me remove the post now. If any member has moderator status or authorisation, indeed please remove it. Mea culpa - and I won't ever do it again. 😩

I am pretty certain this really is one though: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1911-King-George-V-Bronze-Penny/193915563743?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D0b4ae74e5165491189eda494b13bd6f6%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D193915563743%26itm%3D193915563743%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2060778&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507 And in very nice condition too, though appears to have been rather badly cleaned? Others have spotted it I guess by the bids already in, and wouldn't be at all surprised to see it go well into three figures...

That is brilliant, Ian. Freeman to Libertus. Genius!

The best one of these cod-Latin things I know about is a graffito (oh, God, not another thread about singulars and plurals!) scratched into a park bench in Oxford : Ore stabit fortis arare placet ore stat which actually is sort of genuine translatable Latin, though it means nonsense, but the clue is it's on a park bench!

Sorry to to labour the point, but just like whoever wrote thedailyedge.ie article has made you think they know Latin when they don't !! I think I perhaps do, on the other hand.. 😉 If you couldn't have referenda, then you couldn't have agenda, for they are both plural gerundives of obligation! Yet we patently do have the second, albeit used as a singular mass noun usually, to pluralise again as agendas by convention and common usage. I agree the first is pretentious and picky and myself will and do happily say referendums, for as was said above, all language is fluid and evolves over time always to become simpler and more efficient, but, trust me, it could exist and would certainly be second declension. Sorry, I think a Cambridge Classics degree and 29 years teaching Latin trumps whoever wrote "daily edge.ie" !!😝😝😝

I was at Cambridge (Churchill College) between 1988 and 1992. The name doesn't ring any immediate bells, but I did know a John Cox who taught at The Leys School, Cambridge. But guess you don't mean him? Indeed, let's get those jussive subjunctives out ! Really sad joke for Latin anoraks there... Seriously, though, I must go and do some marking now, but have had lots of grammatical fun today with you all! There does seem to be a proliferation of Classically minded people in the numismatic world - I wonder why that should be? Bye!