Martinminerva

Aha! Issue solved - but I guess there will be other specimens out there somewhere... Could you post a picture anyway if it is a better than normal open three?

I too am more than a little sceptical! I believe one of the two confirmed, known specimens sold for in the region of £20K so if true, this would be bargain of the millennium! Go on then - did anyone here get it, and more importantly, is it the real McCoy and can we see a picture?! Given Goulbourn have, I believe, taken over Croydon Coin Auctions and are now running them from Chester, surely they would know what a genuine third example could command and indeed would be a real feather in cap for their auction business. I would only be convinced in the veracity of this with a decent picture...! Or has it been doctored, perhaps?

Thanks - really good tip-off! Very grateful!

PM sent to you - very many thanks!

Please can you post a picture of rev and obv ideally - I have been looking at 1853 groats research-wise for quite a while. Thanks!

Erwin Schrödinger both was and wasn't a forum member...

I have finally got round to relisting it, along with a few other scarce Freeman and Gouby varieties. The list can be seen on this link: https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=1970kit&_sop=10 Cheers!

April - or May - fool!! 😝

Incidentally, what is the best known specimen of the 1877 narrow date? And anyone got a picture?! 😄 None of the 14 (or 13, given that very worn, very suspect one at specimen 11 which for me has the first 7 too high and too tilted to match the definite ones...) on Richard's website would get above fine, for me. And if a fair one is going for anything between 4.5 and 7K, what price a VF or even EF one?? By the way, did anyone here get that one off eBay from the States recently and could post a better picture?

Someone offered to buy it now for £50 which I accepted. The F69 is still loitering at home - might put it on again later this spring...

Correct!

What's the point? They won't do anything that interferes with their profits. I know what you mean, but... I have successfully reported items before for other wrongdoing reasons and eBay have removed them. If sufficient numbers report, eBay can and do suspend sellers breaking their rules. The seller might get the message if a lot if items are removed, they cannot get away with what is essentially fraud. Whilst I guess the seller didn't twig that his picture was of a 1903 open 3 penny and so worth a bit, had PWA bought it, he would have received an item not as listed - the pictures form part of the listing and this is why eBay have the rule about it. I see this seller also has, for example, a picture of a lustrous Unc 1904 penny (or actually allegedly two of them!) when I am sure any buyer would receive one in far lower grade! It just annoys me that lazy sellers, or worse still deliberately misleading ones, can get by because of apathy either on the part of eBay or by much more knowledgable potential buyers... Rant over! 😊

Totally against eBay rules! He should be reported to eBay, but I can no longer see a suitable category for reporting this... If anyone knows what options to use to report the items, plural, he sells, with his small print that these are not actual pictures, please do so and tell us here how to do likewise!

Agreed. The interstices of numerals and letters on dies did have a habit of breaking away leaving thicker and filled digits/letters on the finished coins throughout the bronze series. As well as numerous filled 2's that Rob mentions for example, there is also the "double barred" 5 on a 1915 penny that springs to mind...