RENNES Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advance Quote
Nick Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advanceI know that standards are slipping at the Royal Mint, but I don't think they would produce one quite so shoddy. Given that somewhere up to 5% of all one pound coins are fake, it's fair to assume that you have yourself a fake. Quote
RENNES Posted May 31, 2013 Author Posted May 31, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advanceI know that standards are slipping at the Royal Mint, but I don't think they would produce one quite so shoddy. Given that somewhere up to 5% of all one pound coins are fake, it's fair to assume that you have yourself a fake.5 percent wow!!thanksThe fact the planchet has different thickness or is tapered could that change the weight or explain it being over weight?Also the planchet if it wasnt rolled out correctly surely the result would be something like this?For example the extra weight comes from the thickness,The lack of detail and weak strike on the reverse could be becuase the round didnt sit square when it was struck etc etcOr its part of that 5 %So its effectively illegal to spend counterfeit money?? Quote
Nick Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advanceI know that standards are slipping at the Royal Mint, but I don't think they would produce one quite so shoddy. Given that somewhere up to 5% of all one pound coins are fake, it's fair to assume that you have yourself a fake.5 percent wow!!thanksThe fact the planchet has different thickness or is tapered could that change the weight or explain it being over weight?Also the planchet if it wasnt rolled out correctly surely the result would be something like this?For example the extra weight comes from the thickness,The lack of detail and weak strike on the reverse could be becuase the round didnt sit square when it was struck etc etcOr its part of that 5 %So its effectively illegal to spend counterfeit money?? Planchets are normally stamped out from a sheet of rolled alloy, which is wide enough for several blanks across that width. Given the variation of planchet thickness you have within a single blank, the rolled sheet would have to be mm thin at one side and a few cm thick at the other. I'm pretty sure that the Royal Mint machinery is not even capable of producing such a sheet.It is illegal to spend counterfeit money, as it is fraud, although proving intent in the case of a single £1 coin would be difficult. Quote
RENNES Posted May 31, 2013 Author Posted May 31, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advanceI know that standards are slipping at the Royal Mint, but I don't think they would produce one quite so shoddy. Given that somewhere up to 5% of all one pound coins are fake, it's fair to assume that you have yourself a fake.5 percent wow!!thanksThe fact the planchet has different thickness or is tapered could that change the weight or explain it being over weight?Also the planchet if it wasnt rolled out correctly surely the result would be something like this?For example the extra weight comes from the thickness,The lack of detail and weak strike on the reverse could be becuase the round didnt sit square when it was struck etc etcOr its part of that 5 %So its effectively illegal to spend counterfeit money?? Planchets are normally stamped out from a sheet of rolled alloy, which is wide enough for several blanks across that width. Given the variation of planchet thickness you have within a single blank, the rolled sheet would have to be mm thin at one side and a few cm thick at the other. I'm pretty sure that the Royal Mint machinery is not even capable of producing such a sheet.It is illegal to spend counterfeit money, as it is fraud, although proving intent in the case of a single £1 coin would be difficult.Ah good point!Is it illegal to sell circulating coinage as counterfeit money.... not that I have any intention of doing so. Quote
Peckris Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advanceI know that standards are slipping at the Royal Mint, but I don't think they would produce one quite so shoddy. Given that somewhere up to 5% of all one pound coins are fake, it's fair to assume that you have yourself a fake.5 percent wow!!thanksThe fact the planchet has different thickness or is tapered could that change the weight or explain it being over weight?Also the planchet if it wasnt rolled out correctly surely the result would be something like this?For example the extra weight comes from the thickness,The lack of detail and weak strike on the reverse could be becuase the round didnt sit square when it was struck etc etcOr its part of that 5 %So its effectively illegal to spend counterfeit money?? Planchets are normally stamped out from a sheet of rolled alloy, which is wide enough for several blanks across that width. Given the variation of planchet thickness you have within a single blank, the rolled sheet would have to be mm thin at one side and a few cm thick at the other. I'm pretty sure that the Royal Mint machinery is not even capable of producing such a sheet.It is illegal to spend counterfeit money, as it is fraud, although proving intent in the case of a single £1 coin would be difficult.Ah good point!Is it illegal to sell circulating coinage as counterfeit money.... not that I have any intention of doing so.Yes! It's the property of Customs and Excise I believe - and if known to be fake, should be handed in to a bank or police station. On the other hand, if you sold a non-counterfeit currency coin as a counterfeit, you could be done under Trades Description.. (Heads they win, tails you lose ) Quote
RENNES Posted June 1, 2013 Author Posted June 1, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advanceI know that standards are slipping at the Royal Mint, but I don't think they would produce one quite so shoddy. Given that somewhere up to 5% of all one pound coins are fake, it's fair to assume that you have yourself a fake.5 percent wow!!thanksThe fact the planchet has different thickness or is tapered could that change the weight or explain it being over weight?Also the planchet if it wasnt rolled out correctly surely the result would be something like this?For example the extra weight comes from the thickness,The lack of detail and weak strike on the reverse could be becuase the round didnt sit square when it was struck etc etcOr its part of that 5 %So its effectively illegal to spend counterfeit money?? Planchets are normally stamped out from a sheet of rolled alloy, which is wide enough for several blanks across that width. Given the variation of planchet thickness you have within a single blank, the rolled sheet would have to be mm thin at one side and a few cm thick at the other. I'm pretty sure that the Royal Mint machinery is not even capable of producing such a sheet.It is illegal to spend counterfeit money, as it is fraud, although proving intent in the case of a single £1 coin would be difficult.Ah good point!Is it illegal to sell circulating coinage as counterfeit money.... not that I have any intention of doing so.Yes! It's the property of Customs and Excise I believe - and if known to be fake, should be handed in to a bank or police station. On the other hand, if you sold a non-counterfeit currency coin as a counterfeit, you could be done under Trades Description.. (Heads they win, tails you lose )No joke!I once flicked a coin for heads or tails like you shouldnt do on a pool table it was a 20 pence peice and it landed on edge!!!!!! Quote
RENNES Posted June 1, 2013 Author Posted June 1, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advanceI know that standards are slipping at the Royal Mint, but I don't think they would produce one quite so shoddy. Given that somewhere up to 5% of all one pound coins are fake, it's fair to assume that you have yourself a fake.5 percent wow!!thanksThe fact the planchet has different thickness or is tapered could that change the weight or explain it being over weight?Also the planchet if it wasnt rolled out correctly surely the result would be something like this?For example the extra weight comes from the thickness,The lack of detail and weak strike on the reverse could be becuase the round didnt sit square when it was struck etc etcOr its part of that 5 %So its effectively illegal to spend counterfeit money?? Planchets are normally stamped out from a sheet of rolled alloy, which is wide enough for several blanks across that width. Given the variation of planchet thickness you have within a single blank, the rolled sheet would have to be mm thin at one side and a few cm thick at the other. I'm pretty sure that the Royal Mint machinery is not even capable of producing such a sheet.It is illegal to spend counterfeit money, as it is fraud, although proving intent in the case of a single £1 coin would be difficult.Ah good point!Is it illegal to sell circulating coinage as counterfeit money.... not that I have any intention of doing so.Yes! It's the property of Customs and Excise I believe - and if known to be fake, should be handed in to a bank or police station. On the other hand, if you sold a non-counterfeit currency coin as a counterfeit, you could be done under Trades Description.. (Heads they win, tails you lose )No joke!I once flicked a coin for heads or tails like you shouldnt do on a pool table it was a 20 pence peice and it landed on edge!!!!!! Il do my bit for England and hand it in! Il sleep easier that way Quote
Peckris Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advanceI know that standards are slipping at the Royal Mint, but I don't think they would produce one quite so shoddy. Given that somewhere up to 5% of all one pound coins are fake, it's fair to assume that you have yourself a fake.5 percent wow!!thanksThe fact the planchet has different thickness or is tapered could that change the weight or explain it being over weight?Also the planchet if it wasnt rolled out correctly surely the result would be something like this?For example the extra weight comes from the thickness,The lack of detail and weak strike on the reverse could be becuase the round didnt sit square when it was struck etc etcOr its part of that 5 %So its effectively illegal to spend counterfeit money?? Planchets are normally stamped out from a sheet of rolled alloy, which is wide enough for several blanks across that width. Given the variation of planchet thickness you have within a single blank, the rolled sheet would have to be mm thin at one side and a few cm thick at the other. I'm pretty sure that the Royal Mint machinery is not even capable of producing such a sheet.It is illegal to spend counterfeit money, as it is fraud, although proving intent in the case of a single £1 coin would be difficult.Ah good point!Is it illegal to sell circulating coinage as counterfeit money.... not that I have any intention of doing so.Yes! It's the property of Customs and Excise I believe - and if known to be fake, should be handed in to a bank or police station. On the other hand, if you sold a non-counterfeit currency coin as a counterfeit, you could be done under Trades Description.. (Heads they win, tails you lose )No joke!I once flicked a coin for heads or tails like you shouldnt do on a pool table it was a 20 pence peice and it landed on edge!!!!!! Il do my bit for England and hand it in! Il sleep easier that wayOr do like the rest of us - keep the coin and keep schtum ("schtum" = "quiet") Quote
DaveG38 Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advanceI know that standards are slipping at the Royal Mint, but I don't think they would produce one quite so shoddy. Given that somewhere up to 5% of all one pound coins are fake, it's fair to assume that you have yourself a fake.5 percent wow!!thanksThe fact the planchet has different thickness or is tapered could that change the weight or explain it being over weight?Also the planchet if it wasnt rolled out correctly surely the result would be something like this?For example the extra weight comes from the thickness,The lack of detail and weak strike on the reverse could be becuase the round didnt sit square when it was struck etc etcOr its part of that 5 %So its effectively illegal to spend counterfeit money?? Planchets are normally stamped out from a sheet of rolled alloy, which is wide enough for several blanks across that width. Given the variation of planchet thickness you have within a single blank, the rolled sheet would have to be mm thin at one side and a few cm thick at the other. I'm pretty sure that the Royal Mint machinery is not even capable of producing such a sheet.It is illegal to spend counterfeit money, as it is fraud, although proving intent in the case of a single £1 coin would be difficult.Ah good point!Is it illegal to sell circulating coinage as counterfeit money.... not that I have any intention of doing so.Yes! It's the property of Customs and Excise I believe - and if known to be fake, should be handed in to a bank or police station. On the other hand, if you sold a non-counterfeit currency coin as a counterfeit, you could be done under Trades Description.. (Heads they win, tails you lose )No joke!I once flicked a coin for heads or tails like you shouldnt do on a pool table it was a 20 pence peice and it landed on edge!!!!!! Il do my bit for England and hand it in! Il sleep easier that wayI always hand them in - to the Dartford Crossing auto toll machines. Quote
RENNES Posted June 1, 2013 Author Posted June 1, 2013 http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/LouisX1V/library/2007%20One%20poundOver weight,Wrong design for year,tapered planchet?Die flaws and the edge inscriptions and un clearThis looks to be fake yes?Surely theres no way its a genuine error from the mint.Many thanksin advanceI know that standards are slipping at the Royal Mint, but I don't think they would produce one quite so shoddy. Given that somewhere up to 5% of all one pound coins are fake, it's fair to assume that you have yourself a fake.5 percent wow!!thanksThe fact the planchet has different thickness or is tapered could that change the weight or explain it being over weight?Also the planchet if it wasnt rolled out correctly surely the result would be something like this?For example the extra weight comes from the thickness,The lack of detail and weak strike on the reverse could be becuase the round didnt sit square when it was struck etc etcOr its part of that 5 %So its effectively illegal to spend counterfeit money?? Planchets are normally stamped out from a sheet of rolled alloy, which is wide enough for several blanks across that width. Given the variation of planchet thickness you have within a single blank, the rolled sheet would have to be mm thin at one side and a few cm thick at the other. I'm pretty sure that the Royal Mint machinery is not even capable of producing such a sheet.It is illegal to spend counterfeit money, as it is fraud, although proving intent in the case of a single £1 coin would be difficult.Ah good point!Is it illegal to sell circulating coinage as counterfeit money.... not that I have any intention of doing so.Yes! It's the property of Customs and Excise I believe - and if known to be fake, should be handed in to a bank or police station. On the other hand, if you sold a non-counterfeit currency coin as a counterfeit, you could be done under Trades Description.. (Heads they win, tails you lose )No joke!I once flicked a coin for heads or tails like you shouldnt do on a pool table it was a 20 pence peice and it landed on edge!!!!!! Il do my bit for England and hand it in! Il sleep easier that wayI always hand them in - to the Dartford Crossing auto toll machines. Quote
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