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Hi I have a double tailed 1907 penny - is this rare? Is it of any value ? Certainly it looks very weird. It's quite well worn. Would it have been legal tender?

Any advice welcome :)

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If authentic it would be valuable. Unfortunately, it is most likely a concoction which is generally made by hollowing out the obverse (heads side) of one coin, machining down and away the heads side of another and fitting the second coin within the first with a braze or gluing of the two pieces.

There is generally a seem showing on the rim (although this can be worn away). Also the obverse half of one can be cut away and two halve showing the "tails" side glued/brazed together. Also, counterfits can be cast. These are then worn down by either real or simulated wear.

These are the main methods, but others can be performed...

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Hi I have a double tailed 1907 penny - is this rare? Is it of any value ? Certainly it looks very weird. It's quite well worn. Would it have been legal tender?

Any advice welcome :)

I'll toss you for it. "Tails" :lol:

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If authentic it would be valuable. Unfortunately, it is most likely a concoction which is generally made by hollowing out the obverse (heads side) of one coin, machining down and away the heads side of another and fitting the second coin within the first with a braze or gluing of the two pieces.

There is generally a seem showing on the rim (although this can be worn away). Also the obverse half of one can be cut away and two halve showing the "tails" side glued/brazed together. Also, counterfits can be cast. These are then worn down by either real or simulated wear.

These are the main methods, but others can be performed...

Thanks for the info !

I tried putting a pic of each side on here but it won't let me. I have no way of knowing if it's an authentic (what does that actually mean- could it have been minted like this in error?)

The thickness of the coin appears totally consistent with other pennies of the same age (I got a little box full from carboot sale)

It is exact in every way to the others in the box except for the obvious, in size, shape, thickness, colour etc

The figures are at alternate rotations if that makes sense

Either way it's really bizzare and mindblowing to think it's been around out there all this time !

Is this a frequent happening and is there a market for such things?

Thanks for sharing your insight

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If authentic it would be valuable. Unfortunately, it is most likely a concoction which is generally made by hollowing out the obverse (heads side) of one coin, machining down and away the heads side of another and fitting the second coin within the first with a braze or gluing of the two pieces.

There is generally a seem showing on the rim (although this can be worn away). Also the obverse half of one can be cut away and two halve showing the "tails" side glued/brazed together. Also, counterfits can be cast. These are then worn down by either real or simulated wear.

These are the main methods, but others can be performed...

Thanks for the info !

I tried putting a pic of each side on here but it won't let me. I have no way of knowing if it's an authentic (what does that actually mean- could it have been minted like this in error?)

The thickness of the coin appears totally consistent with other pennies of the same age (I got a little box full from carboot sale)

It is exact in every way to the others in the box except for the obvious, in size, shape, thickness, colour etc

The figures are at alternate rotations if that makes sense

Either way it's really bizzare and mindblowing to think it's been around out there all this time !

Is this a frequent happening and is there a market for such things?

Thanks for sharing your insight

I would imagine it's been altered. Look carefully at both sides and most likely you will see one has been hollowed out to receive the reverse from a coin of the same year. Another giveaway (certainly on mine) are the three (or possibly four) marks on the rim where it was held in a lathe while the work was carried out.

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