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hi all,this 1853 halfpence seems to have a piece of ribbon hanging down just in front of queen vics curl.looked at others of same year and none seem to have it.has it worn off these coins or is it a mistake?thanks for replies in advancepost-7580-004711600 1346512865_thumb.jpg

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hi all,this 1853 halfpence seems to have a piece of ribbon hanging down just in front of queen vics curl.looked at others of same year and none seem to have it.has it worn off these coins or is it a mistake?thanks for replies in advancepost-7580-004711600 1346512865_thumb.jpg

The feature you decribe is more obvious on pennies, because of the size difference, but is fairly common to Victorian copper pennies and halfppennies

It is caused by dies clashing without a blank, the feature is the gap between Britainniars arm and body just above the shield, being transferred onto the obverse die, whilst it is incuse on the actual coin, it is raised on the die itself.

John

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John,

I think Michael Gouby has the "tail" (below the hair) you are referring to, shown with multiple types on his website. There are quite a few different variations.

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John,

I think Michael Gouby has the "tail" (below the hair) you are referring to, shown with multiple types on his website. There are quite a few different variations.

Hello Bob, Yes, Michael has quick a good article on his website reagrding pennies, clearer in explanation than above and with some images, but the feature extends to Halfpennies, probably Farthings too

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John,

I think Michael Gouby has the "tail" (below the hair) you are referring to, shown with multiple types on his website. There are quite a few different variations.

Hello Bob, Yes, Michael has quick a good article on his website reagrding pennies, clearer in explanation than above and with some images, but the feature extends to Halfpennies, probably Farthings too

The feature does not manifest itself in the same way on farthings due to the portrait size in relation to the flan. Die clashes are still sometimes visible, the 1840 2 prong being an excellent example (especially on the reverse), but the ribbon like feature does not occur as far as I am aware.

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John,

I think Michael Gouby has the "tail" (below the hair) you are referring to, shown with multiple types on his website. There are quite a few different variations.

Hello Bob, Yes, Michael has quick a good article on his website reagrding pennies, clearer in explanation than above and with some images, but the feature extends to Halfpennies, probably Farthings too

The feature does not manifest itself in the same way on farthings due to the portrait size in relation to the flan. Die clashes are still sometimes visible, the 1840 2 prong being an excellent example (especially on the reverse), but the ribbon like feature does not occur as far as I am aware.

and what a die clash that was....it took me 25 years to track that one....still I have a few on the radar.The beauty and frustration of a collector.

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still I have a few on the radar.The beauty and frustration of a collector.

Tell me about it, so much temptation but such a small pot of cash :(:lol:

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