Six Pence 1787 stop between ET in T.ET.E

[seuk 85]

I've mentioned this earlier on the coinsgbforum - not sure how much unrecorded it is as I don't have much litterature...

As one can see the stop between ET is clear while the one between TE is weak.

I found it with two different obverses and it seems fairly common

[seuk 85]

Just got a much better copy with the second obverse die

[Rob 3,003]

It transpires that I've got one of these too from the same reverse die, but it may be an earlier strike than yours. You can see the die is getting progressively blocked. On my coin, the legend at 9 o'clock is already blocked on the H & R, but the shield at 12 o'clock is not as blocked as yours on the lower grade piece which has only half of the line around the rampant lion remaining. The weak stop between T & E also appears to be a bit stronger. Having said that, even in the hand, my coin shows the shield up or not depending on the angle of illumination, so it is difficult to say definitively which is the earliest strike of the 3.

Edited May 31, 2011 by Rob

[Rob 3,003]

I think the obverse die of mine may also be different. It's difficult to say though as the image of your better one is a bit small on my screen.

Edited May 31, 2011 by Rob

[seuk 85]

I think the obverse die of mine may also be different. It's difficult to say though as the image of your better one is a bit small on my screen.

It's very close but looks slighly different than my 'first' obverse

[Peckris 579]

I think the obverse die of mine may also be different. It's difficult to say though as the image of your better one is a bit small on my screen.

It's very close but looks slighly different than my 'first' obverse

I think this is normal for the series. I have a 1787 shilling where that particular stop is MUCH smaller than the ones on either side.

[seuk 85]

I think this is normal for the series. I have a 1787 shilling where that particular stop is MUCH smaller than the ones on either side.

It's not uncommon with missing or tiny stops due to metal fillings (die block). But are you saying that you have a shilling with stop between ET like this Sixpence?

I have 30 different reverse dies of the shilling, none of these have a stop between ET

[Peckris 579]

I think this is normal for the series. I have a 1787 shilling where that particular stop is MUCH smaller than the ones on either side.

It's not uncommon with missing or tiny stops due to metal fillings (die block). But are you saying that you have a shilling with stop between ET like this Sixpence?

I have 30 different reverse dies of the shilling, none of these have a stop between ET

I'll have to have a look. Never studied my 1787s that close.