Double dot 1819 Crown

[Benny who]

Just bought this recently,it's a 1819 LIX Crown,slabbed by PCGS,however the dot between HONI and SOIT looks to have been struck twice.

[Benny who]

and a closer view

Edited March 19, 2011 by Benny who

[Hussulo]

Interestingly neither of the dots look uniform. I think the second dot might be a small chip in the die, which would be incuse and when the coin has been struck appears as a dot.

If it was double struck I would expect the letters nearby to be double struck as well and I can't think of any reason for someone to incorporate the second dot in the design as if they had why would they put it in that position? you would expect it to be directly to one side of the original dot ie like a colon.

Still if it is a chip on the die you would expect more then one coin to have been produced and if you can get it noted as a variety and a sought after type you could be onto a winner.

[Benny who]

Interestingly neither of the dots look uniform. I think the second dot might be a small chip in the die, which would be incuse and when the coin has been struck appears as a dot.

If it was double struck I would expect the letters nearby to be double struck as well and I can't think of any reason for someone to incorporate the second dot in the design as if they had why would they put it in that position? you would expect it to be directly to one side of the original dot ie like a colon.

Still if it is a chip on the die you would expect more then one coin to have been produced and if you can get it noted as a variety and a sought after type you could be onto a winner.

Just had a look at the surrounding lettering QUI stands out the most.I have taken a picture

[Hussulo]

There does seem to be doubling of the letters but the letters aren't doubled or spaced uniformly as one might expect if it was a double struck coin.

I believe that the doubling of the letters MAY be the letters being re-cut into the die.

However I would also be interested to hear other members thoughts?

[azda]

I believe doubling is the result of recut dies

Just enlarged your QUI Picture through the iPhone Benny and the U and I have been overdtruck, there is 2 serifs quarter way down the U As though there is a emailer U undernearh and Same goes for the I, There's a Serie there to. Perhaps it was the Large garter type, or perhaps the large garter type was just smaller lettering? Take a look, There's definately serifs there

Edited March 21, 2011 by azda

[azda]

Hmmmmm the U and I are overstruck, ones undernearh sit on the line

[Benny who]

Sorry for the delay in responding,really busy last few days.

Have had a good look and other letters show evidence of recutting,must've had a head stagger when they got to QUI.

I had a look and found this 1919 LIX with the thicker garter the M of MAL and the I of HONI are the most noticeable.

[azda]

I just wonder now if it was actually a thicker garter or smaller lettering?