Technical data on coin?help.

[josie]

On Freeman technical summary data on page 11 last sentence in the page,that the diameter of 1860 onwards in 10 pennies,12 halfpennies,15 farthings is one foot.

Ive seen some entries in the web that a cartwheel penny or twopence is 8 pieces to one foot.

Just curious on the size of coin decrease in time that it is still base in linear measure or some sort.

Any Info,comment,idea suggestion is welcome.

[josie]

just posting.

http://www.practicalphysics.org/go/Experiment_752.html

Page 10 on linear,page 11 on thickness.

304.8/1.5 203.2 pennies also 203 halfpennies 304.8/1.25 243.84 farthings.

Average thickness 1860-1967 penny and halfpenny is 1.5mm,farthing is 1.25mm

http://www.ehow.com/how_7846157_convert-rotation-linear-motion.html

Circumference is pie*diameter.

penny 30.81*3.1415=96.789mm halfpenny 25.47*3.1415=80.01mm farthing 20.16*3.1415=63.33mm

http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/length

D 0.3175 3 rotation for 10D side by side,0.2625 2.8 rotation 121/2D side by side,0.2028 4.9 or 5 rotation 151/4D side by side.

http://www.tomdahlstedt.se/oldswedish.htm

Weight and measure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weights_and_Measures_Act

Edited February 26, 2011 by josie

[ski]

wish i could help josie, sadly im not sure i understand the question.

i just didnt want to not answer.....sorry.

[josie]

Just curious on how many coin and denomination can reach one foot as a measure of length.

And how many rotation of circumference of coin can reach one foot

And how many stack together can reach a height of 1 foot.

Or can use a measure in meter.

It will be much higher if use meter it is equivalent to 3.2 foot it means that lots of coin to have to reach a barometer or a living standard.

Just curios that the decrease in size is also related in inflation.

It is the only reference I can find is British relating to coin on linear measure and troy weight as other reference and metal composition.

I will just use it in the future to measure coins in the Philippine or base it first on available resources on how far coin size and coin weight decrease on time elapse since they have a large twopence coin up to now.

Edited February 26, 2011 by josie

[josie]

On Freeman technical summary data on page 11 last sentence in the page,that the diameter of 1860 onwards in 10 pennies,12 halfpennies,15 farthings is one foot.

Ive seen some entries in the web that a cartwheel penny or twopence is 8 pieces to one foot.

Just curious on the size of coin decrease in time that it is still base in linear measure or some sort.

Any Info,comment,idea suggestion is welcome.

Just curious on how many coin and denomination can reach one foot as a measure of length.

And how many rotation of circumference of coin can reach one foot

And how many stack together can reach a height of 1 foot.

Or can use a measure in meter.

It will be much higher if use meter it is equivalent to 3.2 foot it means that lots of coin to have to reach a barometer or a living standard.

Just curios that the decrease in size is also related in inflation.

It is the only reference I can find is British relating to coin on linear measure and troy weight as other reference and metal composition.

I will just use it in the future to measure coins in the Philippine or base it first on available resources on how far coin size and coin weight decrease on time elapse since they have a large twopence coin up to now.

just posting.

http://www.practical...riment_752.html

Page 10 on linear,page 11 on thickness.

304.8/1.5 203.2 pennies also 203 halfpennies 304.8/1.25 243.84 farthings.

Average thickness 1860-1967 penny and halfpenny is 1.5mm,farthing is 1.25mm

http://www.ehow.com/...ear-motion.html

Circumference is pie*diameter.

penny 31.mm or 30.81*3.1415=96.789mm halfpenny 1 inch or 25.4 25.47*3.1415=80.01mm farthing 20.16*3.1415=63.33mm

http://www.convert-m.../convert/length

D 0.3175 3 rotation for 10D side by side,0.2625 2.8 rotation 121/2D side by side,0.2028 4.9 or 5 rotation 151/4D side by side.

http://www.tomdahlst.../oldswedish.htm

Weight and measure.

http://en.wikipedia....nd_Measures_Act

By weight and metal composition.

Announce by Gladstone in house of commons.4 August 1859,Freeman page 19.

Base on 1852 France bell coinage.

95% Copper 4% Tin 1% Tin.

D 9.45g 1/2D 5.66g 1/4D 2.83g

D 8.9775g pure copper or 51.69 pieces in avp or 115,783.476 pieces in 1 UK long ton.

or 46.64 pieces in one troy pound.

Tin by 4% is 0.378 in 9.45g* 51.69=19.53g

1200 pieces in 1 AVP 2.7 mil.pcs. in UK long ton

1040 pcs in Troy pound.

Zinc by 1% 0.0945* 51.69 4.884g

4800 pcs, in AVP nearly 11 mil pcs in LT.

3949.20 in troy pound.

By 9.45g in bronze alloy.

48 compare to 51.69 or 52 AVP.

39.49 compare to 46.64 or 47 TP.

3 to 7 pieces in difference by just adding additional metal by just 5% of other metal it will reach 3-7 pieces extra or 3-7 pieces less if it weight only 8.9975 pure copper.

There are thick flan in early coinage in 1860 that a 4D is equivalent to 4D of its weight to reach 1D

Or 2 1/4D to reach 1/2D

And 2 1/2D to reach 1D.

As small denomination will not exceed the next higher or highest denomination on its metal composition like in early Bronze coin with several gram or grams allowance so the higher denomination will be the counter weight and a counter denomination of the lower coin.

Edited February 26, 2011 by josie

[ski]

okay i thought why not measure a 2pence coins thickness, divide a foot by that number, and voila no of coins...

but no, im far more scientific than that....so here goes.

a can of fosters lager is 6 inches tall, i stacked 2 pence coins along the side (78), and double it to get

156 2 pence pieces to the foot

[ski]

oaahh yay, oaahh yay

let it be decreed from here on.....

jubbly's were the international curency for schoolboys.....and now

fosters cans are the international standard length for a half foot of coins

[ski]

156 2 pence pieces to the foot

Thats £3-12p for those needing the euro conversion

[josie]

Thank you very much Ski.

203 For pennies 162 for 2pence in a foot.

[ski]

Thank you very much Ski.

203 For pennies 162 for 2pence in a foot.

no.no........156 2p in a foot

[josie]

Thank you very much Ski.

203 For pennies 162 for 2pence in a foot.

no.no........156 2p in a foot

Sorry for that post.

156 2p in a foot pre-1860 pure copper coin stack high.

203 pennies in a foot 1860 to 1970 bronze alloy 3 metal copper,tin,zinc stack high.

[ski]

Sorry for that post.

156 2p in a foot pre-1860 pure copper coin stack high

noooooooooo................156 decimal 2 pence pieces to a foot.

[josie]

304.8mm in a foot.convert weight site.

2p bronzed 1.85mm thickness.

2p steel 2.03mm thickness.wikipedia.

304.8/1.85=164.75pcs.

304.8/2.03=150.14pcs.

156pcs to a foot actual or computation?just incase they differ.

Edited February 27, 2011 by josie

[ski]

115 cupro nickel sixpences to a can of fosters = 230 to the foot.

hic.........josie, im gonna need more beer

[ski]

156 measured...... wear????

[josie]

156 measured...... wear????

Thank you.

[ski]

okay maybe a mixture of dates......but for the purposes of the experiment we can take an average

therefore.....164.75 + 150.14/ 2 = 157.4..........close enough

Edited February 27, 2011 by ski

[ski]

did you send the beer yet? this is thirsty work

[josie]

okay maybe a mixture of dates......but for the purposes of the experiment we can take an average

therefore.....164.75 + 150.14/ 2 = 157.4..........close enough

That is good.

[Gary D]

okay maybe a mixture of dates......but for the purposes of the experiment we can take an average

therefore.....164.75 + 150.14/ 2 = 157.4..........close enough

That is good.

When I was a scout we were taught that a half penny was 1" across so you could in the absence of a ruler use a 1/2d to measure items. Mind you if lizzy had size eight feet you wouldn't need a 1/2d.

[ski]

When I was a scout we were taught that a half penny was 1" across so you could in the absence of a ruler use a 1/2d to measure items. Mind you if lizzy had size eight feet you wouldn't need a 1/2d.

what about edge knocks?

i have a multi purpose penknife for removing boyscouts from horses hoof's

[Peckris]

When I was a scout we were taught that a half penny was 1" across so you could in the absence of a ruler use a 1/2d to measure items. Mind you if lizzy had size eight feet you wouldn't need a 1/2d.

what about edge knocks?

i have a multi purpose penknife for removing boyscouts from horses hoof's

I have something similar, for removing boy scouts from Graham Norton's ... oops, better not go there

[ski]

I have something similar, for removing boy scouts from Graham Norton's ... oops, better not go there

yuk

i have sooo gotta get that out of my mind...........send me a jubbly

[Peckris]

I have something similar, for removing boy scouts from Graham Norton's ... oops, better not go there

yuk

i have sooo gotta get that out of my mind...........send me a jubbly

One jubblie in the post - but I don't guarantee it will still be frozen by the time it reaches you

[ski]

One jubblie in the post - but I don't guarantee it will still be frozen by the time it reaches you

its the thought that counts.....besides....i can refreeze it.....thanx