unknown coin

[mike79]

HI Guys, need help with this coin, it is a metal detector find from Poland, cant find similar in Spink, many thanks.

[Peckris]

HI Guys, need help with this coin, it is a metal detector find from Poland, cant find similar in Spink, many thanks.

Spink only covers British coins - you need a specialist Polish publication (unable to help you there).

Educated guesses / clues :

It's a standard medieaval long cross reverse type probably common across the Continent. One part of reverse legend reads MONETA which is standard at that time. On the obverse, the chappie looks as though he is wearing a bishop's thingy rather than a crown.

[mike79]

Thanks Peckris for help, I'm sure on 100% it isn't a Polish coin, look almost like early English hammered coins, maybe it just a fake? Anyway once again thanks for help.

[Peter]

It is Irish...I have a couple of examples but I'm no expert.

[mike79]

It is Irish...I have a couple of examples but I'm no expert.

Thanks Peter for reply, is any chance to get more information about this coin?, I tried to find more information on the Internet, but it seems that the Irish coins from this period are rare,I found just a few examples, but none matches this one.

[Peter]

Irish and Scottish coins demand a premium...because they are rare and too many collectors are after these...especially the Scots and Irish.I always look for Bury coins as this is my home town and will pay over the odds for nice examples.Some of the rarer mints I will go for....forget London & Canterbury.

[DaveG38]

It is Irish...I have a couple of examples but I'm no expert.

Are you sure its Irish? I appreciate that the triangle suggests that it is, but the portrait certainly looks like a religious type (bishop?) rather than the usual king's portrait. I also can't find this coin anywhere in Coincraft's Standard Catalogue of Irish coins, nor do any of the coins (I think) have 'Moneta' in the reverse legend, or the curious 6 pointed stars.

If it's not Irish, it looks to me as though the obverse legend starts with TEOD, presumably Theodore or Theodisius or some such? Moneta, presumably meaning money is Monedas in Spanish and Monete in Italian, so I wonder if this is a European coin of medieval age, maybe Theodore Svetoslav of Bulgaria, which might correlate well with it being found in Poland.

Anybody got any other ideas?

[mike79]

And the mystery of that coin is solved:

http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=112750&_function_=xslt&_limit_=10

Thank You All for help

[DaveG38]

And the mystery of that coin is solved:

http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=112750&_function_=xslt&_limit_=10

Thank You All for help

Well done that man!!

[declanwmagee]

And the mystery of that coin is solved:

http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=112750&_function_=xslt&_limit_=10

Thank You All for help

yours is better than theirs though, Mike!

[Peckris]

And the mystery of that coin is solved:

http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=112750&_function_=xslt&_limit_=10

Thank You All for help

yours is better than theirs though, Mike!

Hey, I got the bishopy part right! Nowt wrong with an educated flail in the dark

[Peter]

I stand corrected...there were a lot of imitators of our silver coins.

[Peckris]

I stand corrected...there were a lot of imitators of our silver coins.

Or maybe WE imitated THEIRS? After all, those were the days of a pan-European culture, with every tinpot king or queen answerable to some pontiff in Avignon or Rome.

[moneyer12]

it's almost identical to my edward I irish penny.

[HistoryTreasures]

They were known as "easterlings", from which is derived the word "sterling" which is another term for our silver.