Couple of hammered unknowns

[azda]

Was clearing out the garage today and came across 2 coins i didn't realise i had. Any of the hammered experts out there identifiy these, really have no idea what they are.

[azda]

And the other

[scott]

i know the top one is hungarian

[Peckris]

And the other

Haven't a clue. But this one looks early milled, not hammered.

[TomGoodheart]

And the other

Haven't a clue. But this one looks early milled, not hammered.

Appears to be a coin of Cleve; an important dutchy in medieval Germany. Possibly a stuber. See here: 1 Stüber 1670, Cleve

And no, I don't know anything about them. I just googled the legend!

Edited July 1, 2010 by TomGoodheart

[azda]

Thanks for that. does look like the same coin. Still don't know how i got them though lol