Irish Pattern Crowns

[Leviathan]

I see a fair few of them on EBay, and was wondering just what they are? Most seem to be George III.

[Leviathan]

No one?

[Hussulo]

They are not real patterns, they are modern fantasy pieces.

I think they may have been produced by Richard Lobel or for Spink to sell at a patina sale?

Not worth a lot and I'm not keen on the fact that they haven't got replica or copy stamped on them, I guess because they aren't copying a real coin they can get away without having to do so but I'm sure many novice collectors have been fooled by them.

[Hussulo]

PS. not only Irish but they made them depicting Edward VIII and for various countries like Cyprus etc.

[Leviathan]

I thought as much... I have a friend who bought a couple, and wanted to know if they were worth much, and I was unable to find anything about them lol

[Peckris]

They are not real patterns, they are modern fantasy pieces.

I think they may have been produced by Richard Lobel or for Spink to sell at a patina sale?

Not worth a lot and I'm not keen on the fact that they haven't got replica or copy stamped on them, I guess because they aren't copying a real coin they can get away without having to do so but I'm sure many novice collectors have been fooled by them.

Having said that, I recently bought a fantasy penny from eBay - the obverse is the Kuchler design of Geo III as seen on the Bank of England dollar, and the reverse is a replica of a pattern halfpenny of 1798. It's a heavy proof in dark slate-grey bronze and is utterly gorgeous (cost me all of £9.99 :-) If that had been stamped replica or similar, it would have been 100% undesirable. I'm sure someone of ill repute could try and flog those as rare patterns, but I don't think the existence of 1) crooks 2) gullible collectors should spoil a beautiful coin.