1829 sixpence with a possible overdate

[chris]

hello to everyone looking at this post

i have an 1829 sixpence, now it isnt in the best of conditions but itl do until i can afford a nice one.

now looking at the date there seems to be some extra metal over the number '2' and on first glance it seems to just be an extra piece of metal.

also i can see that the coin has been hit with the die at least 2 other times which can be seen in the photos i have uploaded but this fault is on the same level as the date.

after looking at this coin it does seem that there could be a number '9' involved so what i have done is cut the number out in my second photo and put it over the number 2 where the extra metal is and it fits like a glove, i have also cut the hole out in the number '9' so you can see behind it. now the best way i compared these was to save both images and then flick back and forth each photo as they are both the same sized photos.

now i dont think that this extra piece of metal could be as it is on the same level as the number and also doesnt have the same curves.

so, is this a number 9 or just a die crack?

thanks for your time and any input would be appreciated

[chris]

heres the second photo with the 9 cut out

[Peckris]

heres the second photo with the 9 cut out

It certainly looks quite possible that it is a '2' punched over a '9'. The problem, as ever, is in establishing it as a variety. If it is currently unknown, your best bet is in tracking down a few people who also have examples. Or sending the coin to a reputable authority, such as the compilers of The English Silver Coinage, and get an ESC number for it. Ironically, unique specimens often have a problem arousing interest, as I've found with my 1887 wreath reverse sixpence, 8 over 8.

Edited March 15, 2010 by Peckris

[Rob]

heres the second photo with the 9 cut out

It certainly looks quite possible that it is a '2' punched over a '9'. The problem, as ever, is in establishing it as a variety. If it is currently unknown, your best bet is in tracking down a few people who also have examples. Or sending the coin to a reputable authority, such as the compilers of The English Silver Coinage, and get an ESC number for it. Ironically, unique specimens often have a problem arousing interest, as I've found with my 1887 wreath reverse sixpence, 8 over 8.

You might have a problem adding it to ESC. Alan Rayner is pushing up the daisies as he died sometime in 2007.

[Peckris]

heres the second photo with the 9 cut out

It certainly looks quite possible that it is a '2' punched over a '9'. The problem, as ever, is in establishing it as a variety. If it is currently unknown, your best bet is in tracking down a few people who also have examples. Or sending the coin to a reputable authority, such as the compilers of The English Silver Coinage, and get an ESC number for it. Ironically, unique specimens often have a problem arousing interest, as I've found with my 1887 wreath reverse sixpence, 8 over 8.

You might have a problem adding it to ESC. Alan Rayner is pushing up the daisies as he died sometime in 2007.

Has no-one taken over the title? After all, ESC itself was based on Spink's The Milled Coinage Of England. It is surely much easier to update ESC than Peck's meisterwork was. But then again, there is always Davies, of course - I assume he is still alive...?