Hussulo Posted May 15, 2009 Posted May 15, 2009 Latest one added 1884:I have now completed the British 1/3 Farthing set in PSGS MS condition.http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/AlltimeSet...=14010&ac=0The PCGS site only has Victorian ones listed but I've spoken to them about adding them all.The complete dates for a set and my grades are below:1827 - George IV MS64BN 1835 - William IV MS62BN1844 - Victoria MS64BN1866 - Victoria MS63RB1868 - Victoria MS63RB1876 - Victoria MS63RB1878 - Victoria MS63RB1881 - Victoria MS64RD1884 - Victoria MS62RB1885 - Victoria MS64RB1902 - Edward VII MS64RD1913 - George V MS65RDI now need the varieties and proofs. Although I might move on to the other fractionals. Quote
Coppers Posted May 15, 2009 Posted May 15, 2009 Congratulations, Hus! How long did it take you to accomplish this? Quote
Hussulo Posted May 15, 2009 Author Posted May 15, 2009 Thanks,I purchased the 1835 a few years ago but I wasn't aiming for a set back then. I think 1/3 farthings are quite an undervalued and seldom collected type. The low mintages also don't really reflect on the prices.So I thought it would be a fun set to do. I'd say it took about two years.I've upgraded a couple of coins to get to where it is now. I may or may not upgrade in future but I plan on tackling the 1/2 and 1/4 farthings as well. It would be nice to have a complete set of fractionals.It's a nice feeling completing a set even if it is quite a small one. Quote
Peter Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Well done Huss...a very nice set.It would be interesting where CGS would grade them. Quote
Hussulo Posted May 18, 2009 Author Posted May 18, 2009 Well done Huss...a very nice set.It would be interesting where CGS would grade them.Thank you. They would most likely grade them tighter then PCGS.I only went down the road of getting them all PCGS graded as a couple already werein PCGS slabs and I thought it would be neat to complete the set and enter it into the PCGS registry for a bit of fun.1/3 farthings (apart from 1902 & 1913) are hard to find in a true British uncirculated grade but I'm happy with the grades I have so far amassed them in (although there is always room for improvement!). Quote
Rob Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 I still think the US companies are too inconsistent to use as a benchmark. The 1884 I sold you was better than MS62 for wear. I think they took the filled crown on the reverse for wear as opposed to what it is. It would be interesting to have all of them slabbed from raw (to eliminate preconceptions) by CGS and see what they give. However, this would also be a gross waste of funds that could be better employed elsewhere - like halves and quarters. Quote
Hussulo Posted May 18, 2009 Author Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) I still think the US companies are too inconsistent to use as a benchmark. The 1884 I sold you was better than MS62 for wear. I think they took the filled crown on the reverse for wear as opposed to what it is. It would be interesting to have all of them slabbed from raw (to eliminate preconceptions) by CGS and see what they give. However, this would also be a gross waste of funds that could be better employed elsewhere - like halves and quarters. I totally agree. I thought the 1884 would easily make a MS63 as the reverse is more of a filled die as opposed to wear.I bet if I cracked it out and resubmitted it would come back a different grade.TGP's aren't and cannot be seen as the definitive answer when it comes to grading etc.. They offer a service which many people take and its good that they guarantee the slabbed coin is genuine but when it comes to grading they are offering an opinion and in regards to the 1884 I don't agree. Not that I'm saying it's Mint state by British standards but compared to my other MS63's its just as nice if not nicer.On the subject of TGP's and getting it wrong. I have a coin which I sent to one of the top TGP's it came back body bagged as cleaned. I could see a couple of hairlines but in my eyes it didn't amount to cleaning and I've seen similar coins with more hairlines slabbed. So I sent it off to another top TGP. This time it came back "Damaged or Tooled"???I re-submitted it to the second TGP (Damaged & tooled one) now it came back okay and is residing in an XF45 holder!! Edited May 18, 2009 by Hussulo Quote
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