Guest Melody Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Hi there. Ive just found this coin. It was found in west yorkshire. I was just wondering if anyone knew what is was. Its not in very good condition. I rinced it off with warm water and can see its coppery looking in colour, a little scratched, about 29mm diam. I can see letters but can make out what they say with the naked eye, but sure theres some XI's in there. To me it looks as though theres a figure on one side. Figure on coin? Quote
Guest Guest Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Sorry, the larger size pictures are here:Coin side 1 Coin side 2 Quote
Guest Guest Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 To me it looks alot like thisFarthing George IV?The farthings of George IV have two types of obverse differing in the markings on the three lower leaves on the wreath on the bust. Type 1 has single raised lines for the leaf mid-ribs, while Type 2 has incuse midribs. The former is found for issues of 1821, 1822, 1825 and 1826, while the latter was used in 1822, 1823 and 1825. Peck lists the 1825 Type 2 as very scarce. Quote
Rob Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 To me it looks alot like thisFarthing George IV?The farthings of George IV have two types of obverse differing in the markings on the three lower leaves on the wreath on the bust. Type 1 has single raised lines for the leaf mid-ribs, while Type 2 has incuse midribs. The former is found for issues of 1821, 1822, 1825 and 1826, while the latter was used in 1822, 1823 and 1825. Peck lists the 1825 Type 2 as very scarce.It's not a farthing. The size of about 29mm would be correct for a copper halfpenny, but it looks as if there could be traces of legend in places which are not consistent with a 1/2d. The lettering(?) looks very small. Possibly an ancient Roman? Quote
Guest Guest Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 It's not a farthing. The size of about 29mm would be correct for a copper halfpenny, but it looks as if there could be traces of legend in places which are not consistent with a 1/2d. The lettering(?) looks very small. Possibly an ancient Roman?I do appologise, reading back on the coins, it was the half penny I was looking at.And yes the writing is small. I couldnt see Victoria or georgious on it, I suppose the lettering does look more roman. My grandma has actually found roman coins in the same area in the past. Quote
josie Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Welcome melody If your grandma found coins on that area and also you its up to you to find more on its suroundings thats my opinion and maybe go deeper search in the area or underneath the ground for it might be a colonie of celtic or anglo saxon before the roman arrive and do you chart your coin where did you found them it could be a historical site a battle site where roman drop thier coin doing battle or a haven or colonie.Lucky you have found a roman coin in GB. Quote
Guest Melody Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Welcome melody If your grandma found coins on that area and also you its up to you to find more on its suroundings thats my opinion and maybe go deeper search in the area or underneath the ground for it might be a colonie of celtic or anglo saxon before the roman arrive and do you chart your coin where did you found them it could be a historical site a battle site where roman drop thier coin doing battle or a haven or colonie.Lucky you have found a roman coin in GB.Well its more of a rough area, its a farm on moorland. The exact spot I found mine was maybe half a mile from where my grandma found hers. I do know it was a popular walking route in victorian (and before) times. Also monks used the route, and there is even a monks footpath, with some stones still remaining nearby today.Alot of digging has been going on, on the land recently, I found mine on a road, I think digging machinery may have dropped it there. So I am unsure of the exact spot. Quote
TomGoodheart Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Well, using a good deal of imagination and the colour reversing facility of Paint I could be persuaded I can see the letters DEC starting at 1 o'clock on image 2.So purely on this (and a lot of guesswork), you have a (maybe brass Centenionalis) coin of Decentius, brother of Magentius, usurper in the West, who temporarily detached Britain from the legitimate rule of the Constantinian dynasty. Ie: it's a coin of Roman Britain.You may be able to make out more detail with the coin in the hand.And I may be talking complete twaddle. But your coin is a bit less then VF condition so I've had to use my imagination! Quote
Guest Guest Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 You can see the face better on here...Large Pic Quote
Guest Guest Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Well, using a good deal of imagination and the colour reversing facility of Paint I could be persuaded I can see the letters DEC starting at 1 o'clock on image 2.So purely on this (and a lot of guesswork), you have a (maybe brass Centenionalis) coin of Decentius, brother of Magentius, usurper in the West, who temporarily detached Britain from the legitimate rule of the Constantinian dynasty. Ie: it's a coin of Roman Britain.You may be able to make out more detail with the coin in the hand.And I may be talking complete twaddle. But your coin is a bit less then VF condition so I've had to use my imagination!Thank you thats very interesting. Yes I can see something like DE... at the top right also. Quote
TomGoodheart Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 DEI then. On the face of a Queen Victoria (old head) halfpenny (1885-1901).So much for imagination!! Quote
Guest Melody Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Ah, that is what I have been thinking, not that I have any knowledge about coins before today!The face looks female facing left, from the copperness, 29mm diam, and britannia facing right, I came to that conclusion.Good work sherlock Quote
josie Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Thats a good place to go for fresh air any river or wishing well in there.Good to hear those info any chance you will hang or stay in this site and recommend to you other metal detector hobbyist about this site.There are many expert and numismatics in this site but they do specialised in GB. Quote
Guest Guest Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 I think this looks a good match, read down to Victoria Penny! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_th...nny_(1714-1901) Quote
Rob Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 DEI then. On the face of a Queen Victoria (old head) halfpenny (1885-1901).So much for imagination!!No. A corroded old head penny not halfpenny. The 1/2d is only 25mm diameter. Only two millennia out from my initial thoughts. Quote
Guest Guest Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Hey I tell you what, I may go borrow my mums metal detector now and go find a roman one like my gran! Hehe Quote
josie Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Yeah roman but also celtic and anglo saxon and if you like you can post a picture in here it is more than a coin or artifact for me that thier is a story in it on how big the find or story its all up to the expert happy hunting. Quote
Guest Guest Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 I keep finding more and more possible examples. Im going to have to take it to someone who knows in person! Quote
Guest Melody Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1899-Queen-Victoria-...3QQcmdZViewItem Quote
josie Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 I keep finding more and more possible examples. Im going to have to take it to someone who knows in person!Its all up to you. Quote
scottishmoney Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 I have to wonder where that Victorian(1837-1901) coin has been to have been corroded that heavily, usually soils strong in nitrates and other fertilizers will do this to coins. So it is safe to say this is probably a garden coin Quote
Guest Melody Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 I have to wonder where that Victorian(1837-1901) coin has been to have been corroded that heavily, usually soils strong in nitrates and other fertilizers will do this to coins. So it is safe to say this is probably a garden coin Yep! Well under tarmac coin... http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:1E7yH...k&cd=7&ie=UTF-8 Quote
Guest Melody Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 Yes, I do believe its the old veild head of Victoria Penny. I actually kicked it up from a path at my parents farm on the yorkshire moors. Im not a coin collector or metal detector enthusiast.It could have been anything, as my grandma found an old roman coin on the farm, when she was younger (my grandad sold it and she saw none of it! )Also there are myths of a burried horde, hidden by a previous owner of the land.Though now I have to say Im very interested in the subject. I do have a few coins given to me by my mum *goes to dig them out* Quote
scottishmoney Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 Now I will have visions of Wuthering Heights and hidden treasures Quote
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