David II Groat

[scottishmoney]

I have a David II Scottish Groat with seven arcs in the tressure around the monarch's head. It was listed in the 1888 and 1968 editions of Robertsons book as unique. Now there are believed to be 6-7 examples, mine is probably the nicest example. I paid about £125 for it about 15 yrs ago. The dealer obviously did not know about it being so rare, he just assumed it was the much more common 6 arc variety. How do you establish a price for it if I were to sell it? Obviously these don't sell much, and if I wanted to get a top price for it I would have to auction it through Spinks etc. And then the price would be determined by demand, if or if not there were Scottish collectors in the know.

[Hussulo]

I have a David II Scottish Groat with seven arcs in the tressure around the monarch's head. It was listed in the 1888 and 1968 editions of Robertsons book as unique. Now there are believed to be 6-7 examples, mine is probably the nicest example. I paid about £125 for it about 15 yrs ago. The dealer obviously did not know about it being so rare, he just assumed it was the much more common 6 arc variety. How do you establish a price for it if I were to sell it? Obviously these don't sell much, and if I wanted to get a top price for it I would have to auction it through Spinks etc. And then the price would be determined by demand, if or if not there were Scottish collectors in the know.

Hi scottishmoney have you got any pics of the above coin? it would interesting to see.

[scottishmoney]

Hi scottishmoney have you got any pics of the above coin? it would interesting to see.

The above Groat coin was the first of

this denomination struck in Scotland, all prior issues were pennies or

there fractions. It was struck earlier in the reign, and is in the "heavy"

series of coins that were minted before a devaluation later in the reign.

The portrait on this coin reflects a more youthful figure of King David II

and was more likely struck in the 1350's when Groats were first minted.

the legend around the obverse of the coin is "DAVID DEI GRA REX SCOTORUM"

which translates to David, by the grace of God, King of the Scots. The

outer legend on the reverse is "DEVS PROTECTOR MEVS ET LIBERATOR MEVS"

which tranlates to God is my protector and liberator. The inner legend on

the reverse of this coin is "VILLA EDINBURGH" the mint name. This coin is

particularly rare, it has seven arcs in the tressure around the King's

head, the great majority of these coins have only six arcs.

[Chris Perkins]

I think it's quite funny that you can make the word SCROTUM quite easily out of SCOTORUM.

No offence to those lovely Scotts people. (I think I'll split this topic as there now seems to be 2 discussions)

[TomGoodheart]

Very nice scottishmoney! Coins like this are certainly a problem. Somehow once the variety is recognised somewhere like Spink the price goes up but until then...

Just for info, DNW had a seven arc coin some years ago but no picture and as far as I can see a different issue. I doubt an auction price that long ago is much use now!

I've put a post on another forum I belong to - if anyone comes up with anything helpful I'll let you know!

[Hussulo]

Lovely coin scottishmoney thanks for sharing.