Just curiousity value?

[Adri@n]

Just wondered if badly minted (right terminology?) coins have anything other than a curiousity value... had the 20p below in my change and as you can see in the 2004 the 00's are filled in as rough blobs!

As you can tell I'm not actually a collector as such; my hobby is metal detecting so I'm becoming a collector by default I've had everything from celtic (Commius 50-35BC) to the modern day but I'm lacking in medieval hammered silver currently. Mind you, most of the copper coinage comes up in terrible condition

[Emperor Oli]

Filled die? Odd how both zeroes are filled.

Edit: Course it's not a filled die, the blobs are relief. Probably a chip or something out of the die.

Edited May 17, 2005 by Emperor Oli

[Sylvester]

Hang onto it. Americans go nuts about things like that, you never know one might turn up one day and pay you a bit more than 20p for it.

[Adri@n]

Thanks people

The 00's are in relief. I will hang onto it for a rainy day and a "keen" American

What is the correct terminology for this sort of thing? Misstrike?

Thanks,

Adrian.

[Sylvester]

Thanks people

The 00's are in relief. I will hang onto it for a rainy day and a "keen" American

What is the correct terminology for this sort of thing? Misstrike?

Thanks,

Adrian.

Americans might be inclined to throw it under the umbrella term of 'error'.

Although as i've pointed out many times to a number of US citizens (and wasted my breath, or rather typing finger), it's not an error.

An error as i understand it, would be where there is a human error, that is such things as wrong dates (uncorrected), incorrect spellings, wrong alignment of obverse/reverse, wrong obverse and wrong reverse pairings and the ever popular issue struck on totally the wrong planchet, such as a 1p piece struck on a £1 blank.

To me those are errors because they are just that 'mistakes'.

Coins not being strck quite centrally, and die cracks (such as raised lines in the fields) are not due to errors, but rathermore due to the process of die wear during striking, and therefore they are not 'mistakes/errors' but rather more flawed coins due to die wear. Hence the terminology 'die flaw'.

A flaw being an imperfecting rather than an all out cock-up.

So i'd call it die flawed.

[Sylvester]

Forgive my spelling... it's quite appalling of late.

[Peter]

Eyed knowtissed the errers and floors

[Peter]

It might be worth mentioning the US mints (alledgedly) produce error/flaw coins to generate interest & feed the error mongers.

Makes me glad these US punters haven't discovered Hammered....Imagine "Hey Guys this Edward 1 penny is different......

[Sylvester]

I was not aware of this. Although it does not surprise me.

'Consumerism' yet again... modern trash aimed specifically at collectors with no numismatic value whatsoever.

What's next gold plated errors? Oh damn i shouldn't have given them the idea!

[Geordie582]

you realise that some e-bay traders will now be diligently machining 'flaws' on a variety of coins! I await the appearance of such on the web site

[Sylvester]

you realise that some e-bay traders will now be diligently machining 'flaws' on a variety of coins! I await the appearance of such on the web site

Some people Geordie will collect any old trash.

Look at the people that collect gold bullion coins made by private mints (not even national mints) but just stuff aimed at selling round shaped things that just happen to look like coins. Then they go and package it in green packaging or red packaging and charge a premium on the red because it's 'delux'.

I dunno who's more bloody stupid the fools that make em or the twits that buy them...

[Chris Perkins]

Has to be the twits that buy them surely. If you look at it from a business point of view it's actually bloody clever! Get £30 worth of gold, spend about £2 making into a coin shape, and then sell it for £75!

The public need to be better informed, but then the public generally wastes its money on pretty much everything. What about all the rubbish Pope stuff. There was a report on German TV, and they had the German Numismatic Society boss on, and he said in no uncertain terms that they are a waste of money and no coin dealer would touch them with a very long wurst. We need someone (ooo I don't know, perhaps me ) to go on telly and put people straight.

The rich acquire assets, the poor just acquire liabilities marketed as assets. That's how it's always been.

[Sylvester]

The rich acquire assets, the poor just acquire liabilities marketed as assets. That's how it's always been.

Stupid as - daft, undereducated, fools.

and Stupid in Sylvestian terms - Annoying, irritating.

Now if i had say took three dozen Washignton Quarters plated them with palladium, encapsulated them in plastic, graded them at MS65 and gone to thr trouble of printing of certificates of authenticity and then putting them up on ebay at say £50 starting bid.

People would say i was a conman, now if i was to set up my own country of Sylvestia and open the Imperial Sylvestian mint it'd be embraced with open arms!

(In the immortal words of Alfie Moon) muppets.

[Peter]

Welcome to the Capitalist world...I earn in an hour what I pay a painter and decorator/wall paper hanger to do in a day.....I reckon I could do it better...but it takes time...and my time is allocated elsewhere.

Its a rough old world out there...get you contacts/buddies and live to your means.

If we all sat back and excepted to be looked after I'm afraid it ain't gonna work.

Use your head.

Plenty of suckers out there.

[Sylvester]

Brought up by a family of ardent Labour supporters i suppose my views no matter how much i try and change them are coloured.

I just don't like big corporate businesses. Having said that i'm not that keen on Nationalisation either, cos that depends entirely on the government, where the government is commited great, where it's not there's trouble.

I like slightly restricted free trade...