1845/3 Half Crown

[Panaue]

Not sure if this is the 45/3 or not.  Could use your help and input.

[Mr T]

Looks like the top half of a 3 over the bottom half of a 5 but I'm not sure.

[Rob]

It's difficult to say because the number of small bit punches used for the repair confuses the situation. I think on balance I would incline to say not an underlying 3 because the angle of the diagonal is wrong. If you look at a regular 1843 halfcrown, the angled upper section has a shallower gradient and the top bar of the 3 on the above is too short. I would speculate that I would not expect to see more than one or possibly two dies with this overdate because the 1844 dated coins are so prolific, that any reworking for reuse of existing 1843 dies is mostly likely to have happened in 1844. However, anything is possible.

https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/lot-archive/lot.php?department=Coins&lot_id=292713

https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/lot-archive/lot.php?department=Coins&lot_id=234494

 

[JLS]

 

16 hours ago, Rob said:

It's difficult to say because the number of small bit punches used for the repair confuses the situation. I think on balance I would incline to say not an underlying 3 because the angle of the diagonal is wrong. If you look at a regular 1843 halfcrown, the angled upper section has a shallower gradient and the top bar of the 3 on the above is too short. I would speculate that I would not expect to see more than one or possibly two dies with this overdate because the 1844 dated coins are so prolific, that any reworking for reuse of existing 1843 dies is mostly likely to have happened in 1844. However, anything is possible.

https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/lot-archive/lot.php?department=Coins&lot_id=292713

https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/lot-archive/lot.php?department=Coins&lot_id=234494

 

Here's my "example" - been sitting on the fence on this one for a while. Like to think it's the variety ! 

[VickySilver]

I think this is of the type that is referred to as 45/3. Whether it actually is or not is another question, though I am inclined to agree that yours is.

[Rob]

This was the Adams coin. Crappy image, but all I have.

1845 5 over 3.doc

[JLS]

19 hours ago, Rob said:

This was the Adams coin. Crappy image, but all I have.

1845 5 over 3.doc

Interesting. That's obviously a different die to either coin showed here - the 4 has a rightmost serif. 

There's a coin for sale at the moment as a 1845/3 which has an unserifed 4; date looks fairly similar to the two coins above although the picture is not the best. 

http://www.jncoins.co.uk/Shop/half-crowns/465-victoria-silver-half-crown-1840.html