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Hi all

Just discovered your site. Very informative. 

I have a question. I've just picked up a 1861 far 1 penny 6+G

I know that this particular coin is not a rare one.

But how much rarer is this far 1 variety. I haven't found any others online apart from proofs.

I gather this isn't a proof?

can anyone help on this?

Thanks

Dicky

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It appears to be quite a nice example of a Freeman 6 + d, Freeman 29. The date width variations of these early bronze pennies are not avidly collected as every die varied to some extent, the last digit being added by hand. This one is by no means the widest found. No significant extra premium in terms of value, I'm afraid.

Jerry

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13 hours ago, Dicky said:

I think I've managed to post a couple of pics to help. 

Thanks in advance 

Dicky

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Hi Dicky. welcome to the forum .  The 1861 penny, as with the 1860 - 62 pennies have a wide variation of date widths , as indeed so do a good number of dates throughout the bronze pre-decimal period of production, but during these first thee years of production the variations in position of the last digit seems to be almost infinite , as it can be found up to far, down to far, rotated , and in distance from the 6. Because of this, Its thought that the last digit was punched onto the die by hand.  I show a few examples of this below  Terry

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Hi

Thanks everyone for your input. Very useful, especially Scott's reply. ?

It's given me a better understanding of that unusually spaced 1. 

Had no idea there were so many variants of it. 

Cheers.

Dicky. 

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11 hours ago, terrysoldpennies said:

Hi Dicky. welcome to the forum .  The 1861 penny, as with the 1860 - 62 pennies have a wide variation of date widths , as indeed so do a good number of dates throughout the bronze pre-decimal period of production, but during these first thee years of production the variations in position of the last digit seems to be almost infinite , as it can be found up to far, down to far, rotated , and in distance from the 6. Because of this, Its thought that the last digit was punched onto the die by hand.  I show a few examples of this below  Terry

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I love that graphic of yours, Terry.  Fine work!

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