Andy Bruce Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 I have been notified that the following coins were stolen in a robbery which took place at Surrey, UK on Wednesday 26th January 2005. If you have any info regarding these coins please can you contact me asap. Crown 1663 bright Good EF Crown 1687 choice Crown 1695 OCTAVO S3470, ESC 87 Unc or near so and retaining some original brilliance Crown 1700 DVODECIMO Good EF with underlying mint bloom and a few flecks of haymarking S3474 Crown 1821 SECUNDO Choice even grey tone toned Crown 1845 choice grey tone Crown 1847 Gothic choice, toned Crown 1893 LVI EF Crown 1893 LVII Unc Crown 1894 LVIII Unc lovely tone only the odd minor bag mark prevents the piece being choice Crown 1960 Crown Good EF some origibal brilliance strong strike Farthing 1719 EF with a hint of lustre reverse, pleasing S3662 Five Guineas 1686 Five Guineas 1700 Five Guineas 1729 NGC MS63 as further certification ensues this piece will surely prove to be high or top of the population statistics Half Noble Edward III Treaty Series S1506 EF Half Sov 1899 Unc Half Sov 1915s Unc Halfcrown 1698 DECIMO ESC 554 better than EF with some original brilliance, some flecks of haymarking obverse Halfcrown 1917 Unc Halfcrown no problems Unc with some originally brillaince, as godd as you will see for this date Halfpenny 1685 James II in Tin Obverse No Stop after SECVNDVS. BMC 539. NVMMORVM FAMVLVS (5 pointed mullets). Weight 11.07g. With the exception of a few small spots of corrosion, this piece is practically as struck with almost full tin lustre, even on the edge, which is complete and intact. Ex Cooke's Nicholson sale Cooke stated ".... it is difficult to imagine an example in a finer state of preservation" Halfpenny 1753 PCGS AU58 Halfpenny 1868 Cupro-Nickel Proof Penny 1825 Proof in copper pleasing aFDC with a hint of lustre and rare Penny 1855 Unc lustre Rose Ryal James I Second Coinage 1605-06 mint mark Rose S2613 pleasing Good VF or better and ex Garrett sale. London Coins Nov 2004 Lot 662 Shilling 1856 EF Sixpence 1675/4 NGC MS65 If you have any information concerning any of these coins, please let me know. Also, please also pass this information on. Thanks Andy Quote
Chris Perkins Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 Yes, I got that info too. Good idea putting something in the Forum, I didn't think of that! Quote
Andy Bruce Posted January 29, 2005 Author Posted January 29, 2005 No problem, Chris. The more people that know about it the better. Might help to unearth some info on these and the robbers.I've put a note on a couple more of the forums I know of but if anyone else knows of any more then feel free to put a message on those ones too. (Maybe Syl or Oli can assist?)ThanksAndy Quote
Emperor Oli Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 (edited) Wow what a haul. Do we think they were stolen to order? There's some fairly "hot" pieces there that couldn't really be sold on the open market now without raising suspicion. Is there any info on who they were stolen from?Edit: Posted on Colin Cooke's site - all other bases seem to be covered. Edited January 29, 2005 by Emperor Oli Quote
Andy Bruce Posted January 29, 2005 Author Posted January 29, 2005 Thanks for posting on CC's site, Oli. Syl's offered to post messages elsewhere.The coins belonged to a Dealer, but I don't have any more information other than what I've posted here.If I hear anything more, I'll add to this thread.CheersAndy Quote
Peter Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 and no doubt the crook is polishing the coins with Brasso to sell on ........the James tin 1/2d please noooooooo.Surely this lot are traceable....and we've all got digital copies of our coins...haven't we ? Quote
Geordie582 Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 (edited) Can we keep these lists 'active' somewhere, Chris. It would form a good reference point for buyers!I've 'cut & pasted' to Word and saved with my coin information, but I'm not guaranteed to see all stolen lists unless pointed out. Edited January 30, 2005 by Geordie582 Quote
Master Jmd Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 That is a lot of moneys worth there! I doubt that they would appear for a few years yet as Oli said.I shall keep my eye out for any of them. Quote
Emperor Oli Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 I doubt that they would appear for a few years yet as Oli said. I meant they wouldn't appear ever...that's if the thief has anything about him. Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 Does anyone know the identity of the dealer? Quote
Emperor Oli Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 Andy said he would try to find out more at Wakefield today... Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 Mark Rasmussen is in Surrey, it could be him? Quote
Andy Bruce Posted January 30, 2005 Author Posted January 30, 2005 Just got back from the Wakefield Fair (good seeing you again, Geordie - bit busy so no chance for a chat - maybe next time?)Picked up a few more details....more serious than we thought as it was infact an armed robberyDealer = Mark DavidsonThe case no is CN 380 2736 - 05And if anyone has any info, then please speak to DS Bob Gould on either: 020 8768 1212 or 020 8649 1217CheersAndy Quote
Half Penny Jon Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 So the theives were both organised and informed...looks like those coins aren't going to surface for a while if ever! Was he unhurt? Quote
Sylvester Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 Just got back from the Wakefield Fair (good seeing you again, Geordie - bit busy so no chance for a chat - maybe next time?)Picked up a few more details....more serious than we thought as it was infact an armed robberyDealer = Mark DavidsonThe case no is CN 380 2736 - 05And if anyone has any info, then please speak to DS Bob Gould on either: 020 8768 1212 or 020 8649 1217CheersAndy Mark Davidson, i know that name.Doesn't he advertise in Coin News or whatever it's called? Quote
Andy Bruce Posted January 30, 2005 Author Posted January 30, 2005 Yep, Syl - I think he does advertise in CN. Nice chap - dealt with him a few times.HPJ - I honestly don't know. He doesn't appear to be that well known in circles up North so I will find out more at the London Coin Fair next Saturday no doubt. Will let you know.CheersAndy Quote
Sylvester Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 Just for you members on here, Mark Davidson is part of the CoinCraft writing team who wrote the hammered section of the CoinCraft catalogue. According to that he's well known on the London circuit. Quote
Andy Bruce Posted January 30, 2005 Author Posted January 30, 2005 Just got back from the Wakefield Fair (good seeing you again, Geordie - bit busy so no chance for a chat - maybe next time?)I meant Geoff T when I said Geordie!Apologies Geoff! (Too many G's!!! ) Quote
Geoff T Posted January 31, 2005 Posted January 31, 2005 Just got back from the Wakefield Fair (good seeing you again, Geordie - bit busy so no chance for a chat - maybe next time?)Andy - it was Geoff, not Geordie! Good to see you anyway and hope to be around next month.PS - just seen your reply. I won't be so precipitate next time and read to the end of the list before I dash into e-print. Quote
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