Interesting metal detecting finds

[Flash]

Get out of it, that's most definitely a knob. For a start it doesn't look anything like the image you posted and two it's a knob. I've dehorned cows myself plenty of times and you would not fit the point of anything in that tiny thing. Perhaps they were designed for Badger horns? Also what 18th/19th century farmer is going to pay to either produce or purchase those when he could just as easily cut the horn off.  It would be quicker and definitely easier.

Not meaning to sound negative and enjoying the discussion but I have always said that the PAS is not fit for purpose. 

That said I'm definitely going to have a look through my knob box tonight - ooooeerrr!

[jelida]

http://oxhilldevons.com/2012/05/03/tutorial-fitting-horn-knobs/

Here is a tutorial on fitting the modern equivalent, and there is so much more on the net including old catalogues.

It seems so appropriate that I should be debating knobs with you, Flash.?

Jerry

[jelida]

 do this in the animal doctoring book that belonged to my great-great-grandfather! I had always been curious about how the balls were screwed onto the horns, and it sounded like this method would really work. The book (printed in the 1880's) says to bake two large round potatoes, until they are not quite as done as you would like them to eat. Stick a hot potato on each horn, and leave them there until the potato cools down some. (10 minutes?) The hot moist potato sort of steams the horn, to soften it. Then you take the hot potato off the horn, and screw the threaded brass ball on as tight as you can with pliers. According to the book, it will never come off. If you try this, I want to know if it works as neatly as they say it will.

 

Here is a description from the 1880's of how to fit them.

Jerry

[Flash]

25 minutes ago, jelida said:

It seems so appropriate that I should be debating knobs with you, Flash.?

Well if you feel that way debate with yourself then.

[George111]

Mine is exactly the same

[George111]

Not had much else to put on here really lately

And I know I've put similar object but this is the first time I've found one with some leather from the farm   

 

 

 

[jelida]

Nice to see with the retaining wires and leather. Sometimes leather and even cloth survives when intimate with copper alloy, protected from bacterial or fungal action by the leaching copper salts, I have several mediaeval examples.

Jerry

[George111]

Real old looking horse shoe could be saxon ? 

[George111]

On ‎16‎/‎02‎/‎2016 at 8:29 PM, jelida said:

Why do you think that, George?

I note that it was fixed at the periphery by two iron screws or rivets, leaving a rectangular recess under. It has a Rococo style foliage design once silvered, both features suggesting an 18th century date. I wonder whether a strap guide is more likely.

 

Jerry

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=48233&title=strap-guide&cat=169

Looks like you were right jelida its a strap guide 

Edited March 19, 2016 by George111

[George111]

WOW 3000 views

[George111]

Part of a lead post medieval decorative horse harness mount minus the iron fixing, it shows signs it was silver gilt at some point 

[jelida]

Yes, nice find, havn't had one of these for years.

[George111]

Post medieval lead bag/sacking seal Harris of Calne Wilts bacon curers   

[George111]

A double loop strap fitting from harness probably.19th century

[George111]

The bowl and part of the handle of a large (dessert) spoon made of copper could be anywhere from 13th-16th century in date and going by wear the user was right handed LOL

[jelida]

Nice find, probably C16 to C17 in brass (latten). These often had a mark stamped on the bowl below the stem, any sign? Many earlier ones in pewter came from the Thames in London, and more again from estuarine conditions in the low countries. Occasionally the stem and terminal/knop turn up.

Jerry

[George111]

Yes its brass I filed the end of the stem stump there is some indented mark but cant tell what it is yet still too much green deposit to see any detail

[George111]

Nice Charles I trade weight Crown over C with London sword and ewer makers mark

[jelida]

Very nice, collectible weight, well done.

Jerry

[George111]

Rather lovely white metal "silver" object surly this must of been hand crafted by a gold/silver smith? to make a tool to "press" this would of cost the earth

Don't know what age it is it has no hallmark hence me saying "white metal" 

It did have a cork insert but no back plate and loop but could be a button or cape fastener or cufflinks would of been made to have been engraved

It the same size as a predecimal 1 penny

Edited April 11, 2016 by George111

[George111]

Leg off of a cooking pot made of copper alloy (brass) could be any where between 14th to 17th century in date

Edited April 13, 2016 by George111

[Colin G.]

On 11 April 2016 at 10:58 PM, George111 said:

Rather lovely white metal "silver" object surly this must of been hand crafted by a gold/silver smith? to make a tool to "press" this would of cost the earth

Don't know what age it is it has no hallmark hence me saying "white metal" 

It did have a cork insert but no back plate and loop but could be a button or cape fastener or cufflinks would of been made to have been engraved

It the same size as a predecimal 1 penny

Definitely pressed which can be seen by the raised areas shown on the back, therefore Georgian/Victorian, as you say probably a button face

[George111]

Well going by the "peening" hammer and punch marks used to dish the object I'm not so sure your right

 

 

[Colin G.]

I have found a few pieces with similar style, is that a hall mark at 2 o'clock on the front?

[George111]

That area does look the most likely but it just looks like the rest of the patterned areas even though a jewellers eye glass

This might be more clearer to show it could of be hand made