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    Luckiest Coin EVER - Chinese New Year

    in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries

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    I think I have what the Chinese would agree is the Luckiest Coin EVER.

    The CGS grade for this coin is: 88

    The UIN for this coin is: 8888

    The year is 1953 . . . . And in this there is even more luck:  9 -1 = 8 . . . .5+3 = 8

    So 88 + 8888 + 8 + 8 = A very lucky year.

    I looked hard for a Rooster but only found Lions, a Harp and The Queen.

    I tried to make a "Fowl" or "Bird" related word from the Reverse and Obverse inscriptions but none with mentioning.

    Have you ever seen a luckier coin ?

     

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    Penny - 1902 - Kings Norton Trial Piece

    in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.

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    Provenance I have some from the collector I bought it from.

    To get provenance before this without paperwork would be near impossible.

    I would appreciate any information on this coin as I strive to learn as much as I can about my coins as when I retire I have intentions of a book.

    All contributors will get a mention - your pseudonym could be "Señor español dinero"

    I am going to PM you some thing to look at . . . .

     

    Penny - 1902 - Kings Norton Trial Piece

    in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Nordle11 said:

    Ah sorry Guy I thought you were looking for one :D I obviously mis-read your comment.

    However, there seems to be more information in those lots about the coin in question so you might get something extra for your records..

    The first example also seems to be missing the border rings on the obverse, maybe a weak strike but I can't spot a hint of them. Perhaps a different trial design?

    The coin in the photo is mine in my collection. I have searched for info and come up empty handed. I did enjoy you motto: There are 2 types of people in this world, those with the ability to extrapolate information from missing data -    This obviously applies to me :-)

    Penny - 1902 - Kings Norton Trial Piece

    in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.

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    3 minutes ago, Rob said:

    Simple. I just want an example struck at King's Norton. The current gap is either a 1918KN or 1919KN, but I already have the design with a Heaton, albeit with Freeman dies 1+A instead of 2+B, so I suppose a regular penny of the mint would pass the non-duplication criteria, but it is difficult to get excited about the (minute) differences.

    I understand now. You are referring to coins minted by the Kings Norton mint. I told you it was a rookie mistake. Thank you for taking the time to explain - Appreciated !

    The World's Most Beautiful Coin!?

    in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries

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    All that glitters is not gold - so they say.

    Like Sword said leaving aside the value there are some pennies with full lustre that have more eye appeal than an Australian Bikini Models a**e.

    At least with the pennies you have a chance to have one in your hands to fondle and closely examine. . . 

    For me the pre 1860 ticker flan pennies with lustre are amazing works of art and I have never been bored admiring their beauty.

    The 1934 Crown is a favourite of mine and on the higher grades, maybe due to the 70% + silver content, the fields are mesmerising.

    Finally the reverses of some Florins and Half Crowns have such intricate detail that they could easily be described as beautiful.

    Penny - 1902 - Kings Norton Trial Piece

    in Confirmed unlisted Varieties.

    Posted · Edited by The Coinery
    The photo of the reverse was too small so I replaced it

    The only information I have on this coin is as follows:

    "Kings Norton Metal Company Trial piece. Obverse: Bust right within raised inner circle and outer border of linked circles, no legend. Reverse: KINGS NORTON METAL CO L.D around an border of linked circles, this encircling 10 small circles and a further border of linked circles, the cypher KNM within. Weight 10.19 grammes"

    It is a lovely quirky coin which I bought last year. It is slabbed by CGS at grade 65 which is GEF grade to non Coin Coffin Collectors.

    The Obverse is worn and could possibly be a weak strike as it certainly won't be a worn die.

    It is the only one known to CGS and I would appreciate any information upon it for my records

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    Coin Encapsulatation

    in TPG Discussions

    Posted

    The pH is just the strength of the acidity / alkalinity.

    I am assuming (ass U me) that silver dip is an acid but whether it is or not providing the opposite on the pH table is used then there should be no problem.

    There are brands of soap with neutral pH which are good for the skin. I have use Imperial Leather for 50 years to my knowledge and my face has not dropped off.

    As I am sure you have I have some really crappy coins that have been dipped and I will have a play and report back.

    My "Ice Hockey Puck" method does give results. BUT just give it ONE crack with a hammer.

    We did try melting the "puck" but the results we not as good.

    Let me know if you have a go.

    Coin Encapsulatation

    in TPG Discussions

    Posted

    You would hope that the TPG's did their home work and use a plastic which is inert to metal.

    Due to the inherent undulation of the raised areas of a coin V the smooth internal face of the coin there is going to be air in the capsule.

    I have seen on two coin verdigris increase in size during their time in slabs.

    If a chemical reaction was already occurring when the coin was inserted then there is no reason why the reaction would stop.

    If you are concerned about the reaction enough to remove the coin to save it them possibly you could test the coins pH on its surface and then dunk and soak the coin in an equally alkali pH solution which logically could counter the reaction.

    I have never tried this and I would naturally recommend you attempt this upon a worthless coin.

    In the past I have used my Wife's ear buds and hot water to remove gunk and clag from my coins.

    I have copied this bit which is underlined:

    " Blue litmus paper turns red under acidic conditions and red litmus paper turns blue under basic or alkaline conditions, with the color change occurring over the pH range 4.5–8.3 at 25 °C (77 °F). Neutral litmus paper is purple."

    Observing the colour of the litmus paper would not be an exact science but by getting the colour a near to purple as you could is at least reducing the reaction and thus slowing it down so staving off the reaction speed if not stopping it.

    In England we have a medical liquid called TCP which has helped me with coins in the past. Once I have removed the gunk / clag I rinsed in boiling water very thoroughly then soaked in deionized water.

    Off subject but I have had some success removing verdigris by folding toilet roll several times then putting in a plastic container with the coin on the paper then filling with water then leaving in the freezer for a few days. What I did next was to remove the lump of ice which was the size of a Hockey Puck put it in a tea towel and the I hit the ice with a hammer just once. Sounds brutal but on more than half of these attempts the verdigris ended up in the ice.

    Obviously try this out on a worthless coin a few times first.

     

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