Prax

Cheers Gary

coin 1 http://imgur.com/a/ZCV1M#vn6PR6C http://imgur.com/a/ZCV1M#mwDCYMg coin 2 http://imgur.com/a/ZCV1M#p4PL08T http://imgur.com/a/ZCV1M#I2Fa0x6 coin 3 http://imgur.com/a/ZCV1M#6KvpUuJ http://imgur.com/a/ZCV1M#74hZyiK Many thanks.

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Hi all, I purchased a coin as a R18 3 years back at Croydon Auctions lot 278 and have since put it with 2 other coins in the same pouch I am having trouble identifying which it is. I am about 90% certain it is the third in any case I still require some help identifying the Freeman varieties for the 3 coins. I have attached the 3 pennies that were in the same pouch. I hope you can help identify the varieties for me. I have very little experience with 1861 pennies. Many thanks in advance. Regards, Prax

I am not able the add the pics so I will start a new thread. Nice coin Loose54 congrats.

I suppose I could add my 1861 pennies to here. I got 3 pennies one I purchased as a R18 3 years back at Croydon Auctions lot 278 since putting the coins in the same pouch I am having trouble identifying which it is. I have attached the 3 pennies that were in the same pouch. I hope you can help identify the varieties for me. I have very little experience with 1861 pennies. Many thanks in advance. Admins if I used the wrong thread apologies, I am still finding my feet here. Regards, Prax

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I would have sent it to the mint to confirm. Their service is free and impartial. If it were real and a new variety then imagine what you have missed. I would be skeptical on ebay but when I have purchased it as genuine from a reputed jeweler or from an auction house that listed the coin as genuine and I still have the receipt (so many ands), I would have taken a chance. As with the reputable dealers you can go back with the receipt and request an explanation :-)

Dear Kiva, During my early days of collecting I have purchased similar coins. At times I have also come across early pennies that I have detected and are of similar condition. I too assumed it was a problem with the minting process and I sent one to the mint in Pontyclun for an explanation. What they said was corrosion due to environmental damage. It is strange somehow these coins that reach the earth's crust corrode unevenly and form small lumps that swell in time and give the coin a look similar to raised dots on the surface. Sorry to give you the bad news but we have all been there. I would are not satisfied I would recommend sending it to the mint. Even if the mint do recognise it as being a fault with the platchet or say it is a raised dot the value of the coin wont appreciate over £ 2. Goodluck with collecting

Is that a detecting find? Some detected coins have sand grains that lodge themselves into the coin. There are other raised dots on this coin close to the Britannia's legs. Nevertheless something to look for in the future. All the best.

Fair point in any case I don't have 5 coins in the $ 3000 region that need grading and the other benefits are perhaps not worth the extra money forsomeone like me. I will settle for the lower membership tier. This is the very reason I thought I should ask someone.

Uh, surely you mean they charge you $40 for each of the first 5 coins and then however much per coin the the normal rate is after that? What are the benefits of membership? The entitlement to spend money with them? http://coins.www.collectors-society.com/benefits.aspx I feel it is actually better to go for the $ 249 tier because you can grade 5 coins upto $ 3000 each, which would itself cost $ 35 each as opposed to the $ 19 coin each for grading coins under $ 300 http://www.ngccoin.com/services/services.aspx#world

Scuse my ignorance, but what on earth is that? It is a measure of eye appeal that is it is an indication of whether a coin is RD (red), RB (red brown) or BN (brown). I have noticed that a coin that grades for MS 66 BN sells for almost the same price as MS 64 RB or a MS 62 RD. Now you can see why it is not just the number but the eye appeal quotient (you got to love Yankee terms) as well that matters

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Dear David, I will be honest with you. I am very content with CGS but after having coins graded by CGS for about 5 years I noticed that being a penny collector their not indicating whether a coin is a RD or RB or BN makes a significant difference when it comes to selling the coins on through non face to face means. This is the reason why I am contemplating sending my pennies to NGC. I have been in touch with some people but it looks like hardly anyone has directly taken up the route that I want to persue. PCGS is an option as their offices are in Paris and there are loads of dealers who can help with this, but the problem is all taken into account it costs about £ 35 per coin which is a bit too dear when the coins I want to grade are in the region of £250 - £300 as opposed to NGCs £ 20 plus or minus £ 2. @Coinery FedEx is a must from the looks of it (£65 each way I am told ouch!!!!)

Hi Peter, I am informed that you can mark your coin as export to be re-imported and then all is well with customs.

Thanks for that. I did email that dealer a few weeks back did not get to hear from him. I called him but kept reaching his voicemail. I will try again on Monday, I have heard of CGS, in fact they have graded about 30 of my coins including my (ex) slender 3 1863. This time though I want to send some of my coins to NGC so that I have some experience submitting coins to NGC as well. Many thanks for the information.

Comrades, I have been considering sending about 20 pennies from my collection to NGC for grading. I am in London and intend sending them to the USA. Has anyone done this before? Anything I should be aware of? Enjoy your weekend and many thanks in advance.