Paddy

I can't help you with the texts beyond those you have mentioned, but just for interest here is my James I sixpence. It holds my space for that monarch as the best bust I have had, even though the edge is rather irregular. I believe S2670, 1623, MM Lis:

I am surprised the 1810 third Guinea has garnered so many likes - it looks too rough for me! I like this Victoria 1872 Sovereign much more. I bought it originally during my dealing days and sold it straight on to a friend. A few years later, he needed cash and offered it back to me at the original price. Gold had gone up substantially in the meantime, so I gave him more but I think it was still a good deal and I have kept it since then.

It would be interesting to see what you have. I don't really collect gold, although I have a few odds and ends. I know from my market days many "guineas" brought to me were actually 19th century gaming tokens in brass, loosely imitating the by then defunct guinea coins. The only pre-sovereign British gold coin I have is this third guinea from 1810:

I would guess AI generated.

Yes, I know. I tried posting there and kept getting "403 error" so I tried here instead and had no problem.

I don't think it is a repro. Picture still has some of the Sovereign rarities border! Just a fraudster trying it on.

Speaking of which, has anyone found a reasonably priced source of Verdicare in the UK? Just done a Google search. All hits are posted from the US or Australia at vast expense. I spotted a "Curator Verdigris fluid" but when I chatted with them it turns out it is for adding a Verdigris effect to copper! Completely opposite from what we want.

Hi H, both the last two are Florins = 2 shillings each. Previous post also - One florin = two shillings, not vice versa. Life is one big learning curve! The day you stop learning is the day you die, and even that may not be true. If there is an afterlife, what wonders might we learn there?

I have sent Mike a copy of my spreadsheet direct. @mikeweatherley@gmail.com, please let me know if you don't get it.

Thanks for that, and stand easy please. I spotted it coming up at a non-coin specialist auction, incorrectly labelled as a "Charles II hammered coin"! I was considering bidding on it if it turned out to be Henry IV or something else scarce, but I suspected Henry VI. I left it - hammer price was £40 this morning. Thanks for the info and I am relieved I left it.

Not sure if this will help as the reverse picture is even worse:

Can anyone please help with identification of this coin? Which king? Sorry for the blurry image, not my picture!

Great to hear @Circulation penny collecto and welcome to this forum. It would be great to see images of your collection, if you are prepared to share them? @secret santa on here has created the most comprehensive guide to pennies online that I am aware of, and I am sure he would be just as keen to see yours. Hopefully, with your agreement, he could include some images from your collection in his guide?

That coin has certainly seen some history! Difficult to be sure if it is a halfcrown or a Shilling without a scale. It is, however, definitely a Chester coin because of the C beneath the bust. Here from my collection is one of the 1689 Half Crown who referred to:

Hi @Jigsy, Welcome to the forum! The penny you have posted has been messed around with by someone in a workshop, possibly on a lathe or with a grinding tool. Difficult to know what they were trying to achieve, maybe creating a double tailed coin? Anyway, this would be termed "Post Mint Damage" or PMD and adds no value to the coin. In fact this one is just scrap metal now.

Yes, looks to be an 1852. None of the other dates for the 1850s could possibly match. Here is mine for comparison. I picked this up, unidentified, in an album of threepences and fourpences in a local auction nearly 20 years ago,

Nice group again there. You have the basis of a good Maundy collection. Yes the fourpence is Maundy. The circulation fourpence in the 19th century have Britannia on the reverse instead of the numeral 4. In any case, no circulation Britannia 4Ds were issued dated 1868.

Very nice selection of silver one pence there! Well done.

Nice collection! I don't believe any of the dates indicated are special. I used to find that silver threepences sold fairly steadily on the market stall at about £1 each, so that is a reasonable valuation for your records. As to whether to break them out into your collection or not, I can hardly advise! By the way, the Queen Mary box has value too. With none of the original contents they typically go £20 to £30 depending on condition.

With the Anne 1703 Fourpence I can give you a more up to date valuation. Prompted by your post and the reminder that it was one of the few dates I was still missing, I found one on Ebay and have bought it. I would say similar or very slightly better condition than yours and I paid £55 plus postage for it.

Here you go: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=475473#4232484

Book price in Fine is £25 (Spink 2024), but I suspect it would make a bit more in the current market. Maybe £40?

A similar (the same?) coin is being discussed on the coincommunity.com forum at the moment.

For @Citizen H, Yes, it looks like there are problems with a number of the letters on the 1776 twopence, but that is not scarce for that era. Interesting, but not changing the value enormously. For @DaveG38- Does your 20 missing include 1 and 2 pence coins? I left those out - they are so small they drive me up the wall! I only went for the 3 and 4 pence coins - missing both the 1765s, which are always very scarce, the 1792 3 pence (wire money), and then for some reason 1743 and 1703 4 pence. I haven't searched for these for years, maybe I should have another look. For @Mr T, I agree on patience. I got the majority of my collection through serendipity rather than great expense. Many came to me when I was dealing as part of bundles offered to me for sale in the markets, or in response to general newspaper adverts. These days too many people are internet savvy and so these bargains don't happen much anymore. Recently I have had to lay out more serious money to fill the remaining gaps!

Hi H, I am not sure any of those three would really be classified as Maundy money. The 1838 twopence is one of two years in Victoria's reign when twopences were issued for general circulation, mostly in the colonies. (The other is 1848.) For the other two, prior to 1797 pennies, twopences, threepences and fourpences were issued in silver for general circulation. The designs were the same for the Maundy coins, but the latter were generally of a higher standard. The circulation coins turn up generally well worn from day to day usage. The middle twopence is George III so the date must be 1776, not 1716. Still very nice coins to have in your collection. Because these smaller coins are generally much cheaper than the larger silver coins of the same era, they make great collections. I set about trying to get all the dates for threepences and fourpences pre 1797 and have achieved all but 5 back to 1670. One is actually the 1703 fourpence you have!